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To: Pyro7480; KC_Lion; All
American Evangelical chrstians are the most naive people on earth when it comes to the authentic historical chrstian faith, which is so radically different from their own that they are quite literally two completely different and opposed religions. "Chrsitan unity" will not and cannot exist because there is very little in common among the various chrstian groups--especially American-style Fundamentalist Protestants and the ancient liturgical churches (which FP's think consist solely of the Catholic Church).

Historical chrstianity made `Am Yisra'el the (Chas vechalilah!!!) "accursed people" in place of `Amaleq. The hatred the ancient churches and chrstian communities have for Jews and Israel is absolutely inconceivable to American Fundamentalists. The only "relief" in this area has occurred with the liberalism of the Second Vatican Council (Fundamentalist philo-Semitism is the only conservative christian philo-Semitism). And the ancient Middle Eastern churches are the absolute top of the heap/bottom of the pit when it comes to Jew hatred.

Middle Eastern (and Latin and Byzantine) chrstianity has always been adamantly opposed to any Jewish return to the ancient homeland. The Middle Eastern chrstians just a few years ago issued a statement stating that "Zionist chrstianity is not chrstianity at all." They despise American chrstians for supporting Israel as much as they do for interpreting the Bible literally.

When the Jews first started going back it was the chrstian Arabs, not the moslems, who opposed them the most. The ancient churches have always supported the PLO and opposed Israel (the only local exception being some Lebanese chrstians who have been allied militarily with Israel), but even Lebanon invaded Israel in '48.

American Evangelicals, these people are not "born again" chrstians as you interpret that expression. They are both anti-Israel and anti-American (and I'm not just talking about Obama's America). They don't believe J*sus will ever be a literal "king of the Jews" reigning from Jerusalem. And the notion that Zionism is a plot to bring about the reign of "antichrist" that Masonry is a hidden movement to rebuild the Jerusalem Temple and restore the Biblical polity is so ingrained among them that it's practically up there with the trinity and "incarnation."

These people are not Baptists. It is hypocritical for you to attack Roman Catholicism and then act as if the ancient Middle Eastern churches are long lost brothers.

Please understand that I am not saying that Middle Eastern chrstians deserve what's happening to them or that we shouldn't do something about it. But our policy should be based on reality--not on historical fantasy.

Pro-Israel Fundamentalist Protestants should simply avoid all Middle Eastern chrstian organizations and gatherings. Yes, help them, but don't fool yourselves into thinking you are all "brothers" because you aren't.

This is all most unpleasant, but it is true.

153 posted on 09/11/2014 4:21:07 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Good post. A lot to chew on.
155 posted on 09/11/2014 4:26:44 PM PDT by marron
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Was Lebanon a Christian nation in the forties? Fifties? Sixties?


158 posted on 09/11/2014 4:32:10 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Very true and accurate. Well said in comment #153. Every Fundamentalist Protestant should read it carefully while parsing information from the Middle East and certain parts of Europe and Asia.


168 posted on 09/11/2014 5:00:48 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Middle Eastern (and Latin and Byzantine) chrstianity [sic] has always been adamantly opposed to any Jewish return to the ancient homeland.

You are presumably talking about political Zionism. Is it really so surprising that Christian Arabs wouldn't have been in favor of that?

171 posted on 09/11/2014 5:10:07 PM PDT by x
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To: Zionist Conspirator
"Chrsitan unity" will not and cannot exist

Christians will be united in faith, but I understand what you are saying, not everyone who says Lord Lord has Jesus as Lord and those will not be united in faith with the body of Christ, one with God as Jesus and the Father are one.

Eph 4: 12..13 .... building up the body of Christ, until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.

What is with "Chrstian" .. no "i" in Christian?

179 posted on 09/11/2014 6:14:30 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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