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Will Islam become a peaceful, tolerant religion?
Dan Miller's Blog ^ | September 16, 2014 | Dan Miller

Posted on 09/16/2014 11:30:53 AM PDT by DanMiller

The video embedded below presents the views of a Muslim who regrets that the Islamic State, its predecessors and progeny, are Islamic and driven by Islam as it now exists.

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Zuhdi Jasser, a Muslim, supports the efforts of Hirsi Ali and others who call attention to the horrific actions taken by Islamists (also referred to as "Muslim extremists") in the name of and because of Islam. He rejects efforts by Obama and others to excommunicate the Islamic State, et al, from Islam which -- like the IS, et al, -- is neither peaceful nor tolerant. He hopes that Islam will eventually become peaceful and tolerant.

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R2JMR-LKO4]

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Obama, far from being the constitutional and religious scholar He would have us believe Him to be is, at best, woefully ignorant about both the Constitution and Islam. Perhaps more likely and more harmful, He has sufficient understandings of both -- and of His power -- to undermine the Constitution while empowering Islamists. His "foreign policy" appears to be directed toward Islamist empowerment and His domestic policy appears to be directed toward diminishing our freedoms. Both are fed by and thrive upon politically correct multicultural notions. Is it all about the (unquenchable) thirst for power over others achieved, and to be achieved, through their submission, or are there other powerful ideological motivators?

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If Dr. Jasser's views were to be accepted by a very substantial majority of Muslims worldwide, they might provide hope for positive change. However, Islamists are powerful. Dr. Jasser is not. He does not have millions of devout followers, nor does he have the financial and other resources of Islamists; the Islamic State is considered to be the most wealthy terrorist organization the world has seen. No matter what Dr. Jasser may say, and no matter how right he may be, his words will not change the contentions of the Excommunicator in Chief. Nor will they change the views of those who agree with Him.

Will Dr. Jasser change the views of reasonable, peaceful Muslims who already live, and want to continue to live, in harmony with others, including "non-believers" and apostates? Probably not; at best he may not alienate too many of those who consider Islam already to be peaceful.

Will he change the views of "extremist Muslims" (Islamists)? Almost certainly not, at least in the reasonably foreseeable future. Islamism has become too powerful to expect that the words of Dr. Jasser and other like-minded Muslims will cause significant numbers of Islamists to have epiphanies.

Neither will the transparently disingenuous words of such luminaries as Obama and Kerry.

Muslims need to persuade other Muslims that Islam, as it now exists, is evil. Those who are thus persuaded need to persuade others to join with them in changing Islam from evil to good. They need to succeed. Unfortunately, success seems unlikely in the foreseeable future.

Until efforts to change Islam into a peaceful and tolerant religion succeed, civilized nations need stop pretending that Islam is something it is not and to do everything within their power to defeat Islam as it exists. They have not yet begun. They have not even acknowledged the name of the problem. Will they do so in time?


TOPICS: Education; Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: islam; islamicstate; obama
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To: DanMiller
Oh, LOOK! Here's some of that "tolerance" now!


21 posted on 09/16/2014 12:03:36 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: DanMiller

Absolutely yes. Berlin, Hiroshima, Cologne, and Nagasaki used to be very venomous nasty places.

Today they are all quite nice. Attitude adjustments are done by megatons, not by small spec ops, secret squirrel pinpricks, and by arming opposition.

10 hydrogen bombs could change the world for the better. Its simply a fact.


22 posted on 09/16/2014 12:05:59 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Revelation 911

Islam is a system that gives the cover of divine sanction to criminal behavior.


23 posted on 09/16/2014 12:07:29 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DanMiller

uhhhh....NO!


24 posted on 09/16/2014 12:12:21 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: DanMiller

When everyone is a Muslim or dead*

But, when everyone is a Muslim, they will kill each other over who is a real Muslim. So let me correct myself;

When everyone is dead.


25 posted on 09/16/2014 12:14:48 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: DanMiller
Going out on a limb here......

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26 posted on 09/16/2014 12:17:45 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: DanMiller
The only way Islam can become peaceful is to repudiate Mohammed and the Koran. Then it would no longer be Islam. The idea of a peaceful Islam belongs in the same category as things like dry water and square triangles.
27 posted on 09/16/2014 12:19:37 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Available from Amazon.)
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To: DanMiller

It hasn’t been peaceful for the last 1400 years. Read what Manuel 11 said about Islam.


28 posted on 09/16/2014 12:24:11 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: DanMiller

Hell no. It is evil, big time.


29 posted on 09/16/2014 12:29:12 PM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: DanMiller
If you condemn murder you condemn Mohammed.

If you condemn thievery you condemn Mohammed.

If you condemn rape you condemn Mohammed.

If you condemn pedophilia you condemn Mohammed.

If you condemn terrorism you condemn Mohammed.

For Islam to become peaceful it would have to condemn Mohammed.

If you condemn Mohammed you condemn Islam.

30 posted on 09/16/2014 12:32:01 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: DanMiller

Read this for some interesting information:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dawn-perlmutter/beheading-raises-islamic-state-street-cred/


31 posted on 09/16/2014 12:32:51 PM PDT by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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To: DanMiller
Not without their own version of the Reformation and Thirty Years War.

"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

32 posted on 09/16/2014 12:36:08 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: livius

Precisely. Rand would regard it as the ultimate looting religion.


33 posted on 09/16/2014 12:37:39 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: DanMiller

More likely moozlums will continue murdering people. They want to murder you and your family. Ask any moozlum if they do and watch their response. Note: first, make sure they don’t have a knife within reach and don’t know where you live.


34 posted on 09/16/2014 12:46:42 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: DanMiller

Not when the Koran dictates to kill all non-belivers until Islam rules the world.


35 posted on 09/16/2014 12:48:46 PM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: DanMiller
He hopes that Islam will eventually become peaceful and tolerant.

Then it would not be Islam.

If you want Peace, leave Islam and follow the Prince of Peace. Choose Life and Live.

36 posted on 09/16/2014 12:56:03 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: DanMiller

“Will Islam become a peaceful, tolerant religion?”
Yes.
As long as the threat of absolute death and destruction
is held over their head 24/7/365. That’s all they know
that’s all they understand.


37 posted on 09/16/2014 12:56:10 PM PDT by Slambat (q)
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38 posted on 09/16/2014 12:58:35 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%i)
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To: DanMiller

Maybe after we kill a few hundred million of them and turn Mecca into radioactive dust. But I wouldn’t bet on it even then.


39 posted on 09/16/2014 1:01:54 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Hieronymus

oops....how’d that 2 get in there...LOL....it just FEELS like it’s been that long!


40 posted on 09/16/2014 1:18:06 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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