Posted on 10/15/2014 2:57:33 AM PDT by Whenifhow
Dr. Betsy McCaughey appeared on Fox just after she had attend a CDC conference call with hospitals this afternoon.
Host Stuart Varney asked her what it would take to set up 50 hospitals to be ready for Ebola.
McCaughey’s answer is stunning.
According to her, after the CDC outlined its preparation strategy, one hospital administrator responded, “What you’re telling us would bankrupt my hospital!” She said that that administrator represents a Southern California hospital.
McCaughey noted that there was no word on the call of who would pay for hospitals to get themselves ready for Ebola patients.
And then she added: “Treating one Ebola patient requires, full time, 20 medical staff. Mostly ICU (intensive care unit) people. So that would wipe out an ICU in an average-sized hospital.”
In the case of Texas Presbyterian, McCaughey says that the hospital cordoned off its ICU to care for Thomas Eric Duncan and sent the rest of its ICU patients to other area hospitals. She added that many communities will not have multiple hospitals to choose from, so one Ebola case could cripple ICUs in small towns.
“But the most important thing,” McCaughey said, “is that doctors and nurses are not ready for the challenge of using this personal protective equipment even if you see them with the helmet, the respirator, the full suits, as the CDC said on the call today, even all that equipment is not enough to guarantee the safety of health care workers because it is so perilous to put it on and particularly to remove it once it’s become contaminated.”
McCaughey said many of those on the call were “daunted by the expectations, the separate laboratory next to the isolated patients, all kinds of — all kinds of adjustments, where to put the waste. Many states won’t even let you dispose of this waste from such a toxic disease.”
Watch McCaughey’s segment.
Sorry, the leaders with the balls to even contemplate such a move have been removed from office or retired.
The rest are either attending sensitivity training or learning how to counter domestic terrorists. (you)
The second Liberian (Guinean, Sierra Leonian) is really going to bring down the temple. And he’s probably here already.
How so?? Factor in staff coverage for various shifts over an unknown number of days: RNs in ICU, respiratory therapists, lab technicians, and of course MDs from several specialties (critical care, pulmonolgy, renal, infectious disease) etc.
Most patients of this acuity level encounter a multitude of providers throughout the course of their care.
This is the sort of resource requirement that will cause hospital staffing to "sag" and pull HCWs that are appropriately trained from other departments.
Will bring a hospital to its knees as the resource shortages cascade through the hospital.
The thought comes to mind - are military NBC warfare clean up protocols of any use? Is that still around as an active part of our military? It certainly was during the Cold War as the Soviets were known to have large stockpiles of nerve agents.
If Obala's Ebola starts closing hospital ER's where are the illegals going to go for HC? Could be a double-bind for our inept government.
When Ferguson Meets Ebola
For understanding why our official medicos and politicos are mishandling the Ebola threat so badly, read The Plague by Camus again, and reflect that it was based on ancient human impulses that never change. Look at the 1918-19 flu for some other lessons. Millions died. Very big mistakes were made and important lessons learned, most of them forgotten.
The “good news” in this mess is that the cities that get hit first and worst by Ebola will provide lessons for the rest of us. I think we will learn the hard way to segregate standard hospitals from fever/Ebola treatment centers. Admitting a flood of Ebola patients is a sure way to nuke a hospital as effectively as a bio-weapon WMD attack over time. The hospital will be contaminated and much of the staff dead, of the ones who didn’t run away early.
Eventually we’ll see newly-created fever camps become the only refuge available to anybody showing flu symptoms. Hospitals will turn them away, maybe with police assistance and the offer of a handy bus driven by a fellow in a haz-mat suit to take them to their new/last home. What’s behind Door Number Two? Don’t worry, you’ll find out later. Maybe you only have the still-spreading Enterovirus D-68, AKA the Guatemalan Flu. You won’t know for sure until your eyeballs are bleeding. Unless maybe you caught the big-E from the guy vomiting on the next cot over. Maybe you just had a nasty cold when they brought you in last week.
And this begs the question, what happens when 1 or 2% of a city have died: who will go to work? People will self-quarantine at home and the economy will crash. And what about the police, fire fighters, EMTs, and hospital crews? What about the crews down at your local power plant, or food distribution center? Think they will all become Mother Teresas, martyring alongside the lepers for the greater good? Think they will not stay home?
But even in the resulting economic crash, unfairness will be ferreted out. Is it fair that some people have prepared, and have several months-worth of food on hand? Is that fair, when the supermarkets were all looted in the general panic, and there have been no more food deliveries, and the EBT system is not functioning? Is it fair that some, who have prepared, will be able to simply ride out the Ebola pandemic to boot?
So the already latently violent among the starving will be very motivated to come out and play. Starving goblins, millions of them. What about the goblins who may think they have already contracted Ebola, and have a week until they die? Or if they believe they will certainly contract the deadly virus soon? And what if they firmly believe by then that Ebola was a CIA/Mossad plot to wipe out Africans and people of African ancestry?
Many American blacks are already angry. What happens to that anger when the epidemic strikes them? What happens when Ebola comes to Ferguson, USA, across most of the fifty states? Already brainwashed to a near fever-pitch of racial anger by professional agitators, it is my fear that after the plague hits they will then become super-beyond-belief pissed, and eager to share their case of Ebola with any white overlords and oppressors who come in range as their final act.
If you thought you were going to die in a week, most painfully and horribly, and you already had a giant hate-on for whitey, what might you do as some of your very final acts upon this earth? What will flash mobs of people that angry do? For just one example, home invasions in search of food and perceived retribution, will explode.
Talk about your perfect social storms? No, worse. Talk about your zombie apocalypse. I’ll say it again:
Alas, Brave New Babylon.
Why all the fuss? Ebola, hell I got my flu shot!
Got yours yet?
Someone who thinks they have Ebola should not initially go to a hospital - they should be met in their home by a properly trained and protected team for testing.
If the team suspects Ebola, the patient should be moved by dedicated ambulance to a dedicated regional hospital.
Ebola is classified for Biosafety Level 4 in a lab. That is working with minute amounts of virus that aren’t moving. If you consider a grown man secreting Ebola over his entire body surface, given to unexpected spurts of large quantities of infectious fluid, and delirious and incapable of self-control, then asking health workers to use anything less than Level 4 gear for protection is absurd.
I suggest hazard pay of ten to twenty times regular salary, and quarantine accommodation on hospital grounds for volunteer Ebola staff.
Obviously no travel from the African countries affected.
Prepare for terrorists who will not be coming directly from Africa, but who will have a second passport or who will be infected at a location outside of Africa by the primary vector.
Train and pay African survivors of Ebola to care for patients in Africa.
Thank you, Obamacare. The gift that won't stop giving.
People will self-quarantine at home and the economy will crash.
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Is it fair that some people have prepared, and have several months-worth of food on hand? Is that fair, when the supermarkets were all looted in the general panic, and there have been no more food deliveries, and the EBT system is not functioning?
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Many American blacks are already angry. What happens to that anger when the epidemic strikes them? What happens when Ebola comes to Ferguson, USA,
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zombie apocalypse
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The economy will crash regardless, but this crisis would be the cloward and piven moment.
Not to mention those mama grizzlies to protect their young!
George Washington would not approve of your glib wishes.
The degenerate bastards from both parties are running for the tall grass, all they care about is getting reelected and not doing or saying anything that would be considered politically incorrect and cost them their seats.
Time for the US military to step up and institute a provisional military government is at hand.
So ... declare martial law in time to cancel the midterm?
It is time to overthrow this government BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!
A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread
Better print the decks of cards for the post fun roundup now...We know who gets to be the ace...
Your audit is in the mail.
I’m refuse to believe that a single patient with ANY condition would require 20 full time staff. That’s just laughable!
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Two nurses for three sifts each equals nine
at least two techs to help with gowning, remove wastes on each shift
24 hour dedicated cleaning staff at least 2 per shift equals 6
24 hour respiratory care workers three shifts 3
Medical staff to oversee at least 2 on 12 hour shifts.
Looks like a minimum to me.
You 'get it'!
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