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Il: Bakery Shootout: no Restraints
Gun Watch ^ | 21 November, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/21/2014 3:38:53 PM PST by marktwain



I teach students to make a decision about being put under restraint before they get into a deadly force situation.   By restraint, I mean that the aggressor/attacker is attempting something, or commanding you to do something, that significantly reduces your options for resistance.  One of the simplest of these is for someone to aim a gun at you from a vehicle, and order you to get into the car.  It is almost always better to run for cover at that point.  Criminals do not want to move you somewhere for your benefit.

Other examples are: they are going to tie you up, move you to another location, put a hood over your head.   It could be as simple as commanding you to lie face down on the floor or go into a cooler at a retail outlet.

It is worth repeating: criminals do not want to put you under restraint for your own good.   It often ends badly for the person put under restraint.  I  recall reading a source that claimed that once you were under restraint, the chances of your survival dropped below 50%.  Academic studies and common sense indicate that resistance with a weapon are far more likely to be successful.

Make the decision now.  At what point will you resist?  I have made my decision.  If the criminal tries to put me under restraint, I will fight.  Pick your moment for optimum resistance.  The recent case in Atlanta is a good example.  Another is this case in Illinois, just south of Chicago.   From nbcchicago.com:

He said a pair of men came into the shop at about 3:30 p.m., took a couple of hundred dollars out of the safe, and then tried to force him and another employee to the back of the bakery. That's when the shop owner fired the weapon, striking one of the robbers.

"They had the money already, why would they ask us to go to the back," the owner said. "It just didn't feel right, everything happened so fast."
The baker acted quickly and decisively.  He shot one  robber seven times.  We do not know if the other robber was hit, because he escaped.  Let this be a lesson for disarmists in New York, such as Governor Cuomo, who claim that no one would ever need more than seven shots to defend themselves.

Another important point is the benefit to society that accrued from the Baker's resistance.  A criminal was put out of action for a considerable period.   It is likely that another will be caught and prosecuted.  Many crimes will be prevented as a result.   The police chief, Edward L. Gilmore,  supported the bakery owner. 

Calumet City Police Chief Edward L. Gilmore said the shop owner is a legal gun owner and was acting well within in his rights. Gilmore said it should serve as a warning to other would-be criminals.

"I think a message should be sent to all would-be criminals out there that business owners have a right to protect themselves," Gilmore said.
Police Chief Gilmore joins the ranks of chiefs who recognize the rights of citizens to self defense.  Perhaps he will join Sheriff Clarke of Milwaukee and Police Chief Craig of Detroit in actively supporting armed citizens.

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To: humblegunner

Would an apology remove my assumption?

Nope.

I don’t trust blogs and I’m not sorry for that.


You should apologize for not recognizing Dean and Gun Watch. He is posted here much and the fact you did not recognize that kind of undermines your position of Blog Watcher.

You might want to sit down.


21 posted on 11/21/2014 7:08:10 PM PST by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: marktwain

The same principles apply when confronted with tyrants as with petty criminals.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

— Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn


22 posted on 11/21/2014 7:24:59 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Executive amnesty' is a euphemism for treason.)
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To: SolidRedState
You should apologize for not recognizing Dean and Gun Watch.

I recognize him just fine.

Dates on different sites indicated stolen material.

He is posted here much and the fact you did not recognize that

He sure is.. posted by himself.

What does that tell you?

23 posted on 11/22/2014 4:27:56 AM PST by humblegunner (Why hello, Captain Trips.)
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To: Lurker
It would remove the assumption that you’re a rude jerk, at least for me.

Your assumption is correct, no removal required.

24 posted on 11/22/2014 4:29:13 AM PST by humblegunner (Why hello, Captain Trips.)
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To: marktwain

the blogger at “Free Men Do” freemendo at wordpress
said the exact same thing ... don’t have the link handy.
another etze from him: Leave “Free Stuff” on the Highway
alone.


25 posted on 11/24/2014 4:51:42 AM PST by cycjec
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