Posted on 11/30/2014 5:15:33 AM PST by IChing
I have seen reports identical to that which did test for race differences, as for delaying gratification, and the blacks generally took the immediate gratification while whites generally waited for bigger payoffs.
Good info
The spiritual angle, however, might be said to trump all others, no? After all, in the spiritual view, the material world is but the stage for the drama of the battle for men’s souls, for the struggle among powers and principalities, and so on.
What are genes and neurons and gray matter but chemicals, subordinate to consciousness which is more or less either brightened by its divine source, or darkened by a more worldly focus?
Jesse Jackson essentially said the same thing.
Blacks have mean IQs of 85 per many studies. Affirmative action or religion can offset that.
May I ask for references to your: “There is certainly a strong genetic component but intellect is greatly impacted but how our brains are challenged in early life.”
Lack of long chain fatty acids in the diet, and other abuses may diminish expressed IQ, but I am unaware of validated studies, indeed any studies indicating IQ was raised.
If it is possible, I am buying it!
Not quite. The Barbarians assimilated into Roman Civilization and adopted Roman Law and Roman ways. They became Romans. The Barbarian generals who conquered Rome were Roman generals leading Roman formations in Roman arms and regalia.Odoacer was that Roman general come to Rome to collect on arrears in pay for the troops. Rome did not “Fall.” It dissipated. The Barbarians in the successor states maintained Roman civilization for two more centuries, individual rulers ruling in deference to a Roman system that had no longer a center. Roman Civilization was carried by the descendants of the barbarians until the conquests of the Moslems in the East cut off trade with the East which had been for several centuries the cosmopolitan and production center of the Empire. When the Mohammedan pirates cut off the connection with the East the supply of papyrus ceased. Previous to that the population had ben literate to a large extent. With the decline of literacy Roman civilization finally ended.<p?As for the blacks in the USA, in the 40s and 50s there was a migration from the South into the industrial North such that the Negroes become very similar to the Irish and other Europeans who immigrated in great numbers in the first part of the last century. Their trajectory was following that of the immigrants. They rapidly were entering American civilization. Along came LBJ and the War on Poverty and Medicaid and Welfare and the induced disintegration of the family. Just as the motor was starting to crank the Democrats kicked the wheels off the car. The decline of public education overall and more in the schools attended by Negro kids accelerated the disintegration. The same process is coming to much of the white population, just at a slower pace because we start at a much higher level than the sharecroppers of the old South.
I was unable to find where the investigators had used identical twins, one raised in a “more supportive” and the other in a “less supportive” environment, and examined the IQ score differences.
Fraternal twins are far different than identical twins.
My church is active in several urban ministries, and I myself regularly work in two of these: a free clinic and a prison youth ministry.
What I see is this. The blacks who regularly attend my church are doing quite well. They tend to marry one person for life, and expect the same of their children. Most of those children rise to their parents’ expectations.
However, the blacks that I see in prison and in the free clinic have one thing in common. They do not marry. It’s not only that they have children out of wedlock, but it’s that they don’t even seem to aspire to marriage.
One thing Christianity does to change the culture is to create the expectation of lifelong marriage, which results in children who benefit from committed two parent families.
Obviously, the main thing Christianity offers is salvation through Christ’s grace, which not only ensures an eternal citizenship in heaven, but also the Holy Spirit’s sanctifying work here on earth.
That’s late Rome. I was talking about at its height, by which I meant late Republic and early Principate. Yes, by the later years, they just sort of became whatever the people around them were; sort of like the USA today. I was simply making the point that the Romans established a great civilization before the advent of Christianity.
In fact fraternal twins are just siblings of no special characteristics beyond how they are treated due to coming two at a time.
I’ve read that Prager article before. It is primarily about homosexuality, which was not the norm in ancient Rome. I don’t see how you can say with a straight face that Rome was not a notable society.
How the hell do you keep reading what I write and attributing to me the opposite? You are Ivy League, yes?
I did misread your reply. I thought you had written that you “had made the point that there was no notable civilization, etc”. Sorry.
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