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UK: Benefits Pay Much More than a Job
Enza Ferreri Blog ^ | 18 December 2014 | Enza Ferreri

Posted on 12/18/2014 12:36:41 PM PST by Enza Ferreri

One of the many UK large families living entirely on benefits

Here's a well-researched and well-argued article that, after investigation, reliably shows that the presence of food banks doesn't mean that welfare cheques are not high enough, but only that "sometimes the state messes up benefit payments and leaves nasty delays. They prove that people aren’t good at managing money. They suggest that not everyone puts rent and food before fags and booze (but we don’t want to get into a discussion about the deserving and the undeserving here). They confirm that supply creates its own demand."

My disagreement with the writer is that she seems to be in favour of a welfare state, even overly munificent, and that she attributes the current state of affairs - in which working members of society practically support and maintain in a comfortable lifestyle generation after generation of non-working members - to the altruism of individuals.

I think instead that people pay excessive taxes not because they are philanthropic but because they don't have the courage to rebel against them, as they haven't had the courage to rebel against Islamisation and unlimited immigration.

Spontaneous, individual charity is a sign of a moral spirit and improves the character of the giver without corrupting that of the recipient. Imposed charity is just tyranny by the state.

Below are the astonishing results of the author's research, confirming what we already knew, namely that benefit claimants are paid for doing nothing much more than the average worker earns for devoting almost half of his waking life to a job.

Having read a good amount recently on food banks in the UK this week, I had a little wander around the benefits system. I looked at a postcode in the southeast of England to see just how much you get from the welfare state in the UK if you aren’t working at all.

I started with a couple with two children and added up their housing benefit, jobseeker’s allowance, tax credits and child benefit. The result? A tax-free income of £24,269. That’s the equivalent of an earned (and hence taxable) income of £32,000. That’s very significantly more than the number we are always given as the UK’s average wage.

Then I looked at a single mother with two kids. Her payments come out to just under £24,000, so again an earned income equivalent of just under £32,000.

Finally, I looked at a single unemployed man of working age. His benefit payments in the same area come to a tax-free total of £12,300 with £7,600 of that being housing benefit. I then looked up the accommodation available to rent at that price or less in the area. Rightmove provided 68 pages of possibilities.

Now, none of these amounts add up to fortunes. But they don’t add up to anything approaching absolute poverty either. Live frugally and stay out of debt, and things should be fine. Not exactly luxurious, but fine.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: benefits; scroungers; uk; welfare

1 posted on 12/18/2014 12:36:41 PM PST by Enza Ferreri
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To: Enza Ferreri

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.


2 posted on 12/18/2014 12:38:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Enza Ferreri

The Bangles - Going Down to Liverpool

Hey there...
Where you going with that load of nothing in your hand
I said: Hey there...
All through this green and pleasant land.

I’m going down to Liverpool to do nothing
I’m going down to Liverpool to do nothing
I’m going down to Liverpool to do nothing
All the days of my life
All the days of my life.

Hey there...
Where you going with that UB40 in your hand
I said: Hey there...
All through this green and pleasant land.

I’m going down to Liverpool to do nothing
I’m going down to Liverpool to do nothing
I’m going down to Liverpool to do nothing
All the days of my life
All the days of my life.

Hey now
Where you going with that UB40 in your hand
I said: Hey now
All through this green and pleasant land.

I’m going down to Liverpool to do nothing
I’m going down to Liverpool to do nothing
All the days of my life
All the days of my life.


3 posted on 12/18/2014 12:39:49 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Enza Ferreri

£24,269 = $38,000

good lord


4 posted on 12/18/2014 12:42:55 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Enza Ferreri

“...people pay excessive taxes not because they are philanthropic but because they don’t have the courage to rebel against them, as they haven’t had the courage to rebel against Islamisation and unlimited immigration...”

This is true not only in the UK but here as well.


5 posted on 12/18/2014 12:43:26 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
don’t have the courage to rebel against them

WE...not Obama, not the GOPe, not anyone else...WE have failed the Founder's legacy, and yet we have the audacity to call ourselves patriots? I think not. We are a Nation of pu$$ies who insist on whining and crying and in the end, doing nothing to secure our freedom for us and our posterity. We deserve to lose America, which is precisely why we have.

6 posted on 12/18/2014 12:46:46 PM PST by dware ("White Privilege" stems from one's ability to lace up work boots and read a work schedule)
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To: Enza Ferreri

Every stupid liberal i have talked to is convinced that the “welfare queen” is a mythical being and not the leech who lives next door...


7 posted on 12/18/2014 12:51:57 PM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: dware

“...We are a Nation of pu$$ies who insist on whining and crying and in the end, doing nothing to secure our freedom for us and our posterity...”

We need a trigger event but the daily outrages are just keepin us accustomed to being sheeple. We still have arms and we still have Irish tempers but what will it take...?


8 posted on 12/18/2014 12:58:15 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
We need a trigger event

How many violations of the Constitution will it take for the trigger event? The Founders would have jumped way back in 1913. Here we are 80 years later, still doing nothing.

9 posted on 12/18/2014 1:16:41 PM PST by dware ("White Privilege" stems from one's ability to lace up work boots and read a work schedule)
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To: dware

[ How many violations of the Constitution will it take for the trigger event? The Founders would have jumped way back in 1913. Here we are 80 years later, still doing nothing. ]

The “people” are too fat and happy and will remain so for quite some time as the Former Republic slowly consumes itself...


10 posted on 12/18/2014 1:25:32 PM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Enza Ferreri

“Fags” in this instance is Britspeak for cigarettes.
Think someone needed to point that out.


11 posted on 12/18/2014 1:43:55 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Monterrosa-24
We need a trigger event but the daily outrages are just keepin us accustomed to being sheeple.

Well $4.30 hamburger didn't make anyone mad, neither did $5.00 gasoline or ObamaCare along with declining wages, as Pogo said, "We have met the enemy, and he is us"

12 posted on 12/18/2014 2:02:08 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: GraceG

If our Founding Fathers were alive today they’d all be in some secret off-shore prison somewhere, never to be seen again.

See, King George III might have been a tyrant but he didn’t have the IRS, the FBI, DHS, NSA, CIA, DOJ, EPA, and all other manner of ways to torture us into submission.


13 posted on 12/18/2014 2:08:22 PM PST by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: itsahoot; Monterrosa-24; dware; GraceG

Trigger event?

The one I see working the best is missing nine meals, 72 hours without any services and you will have your trigger event.


14 posted on 12/18/2014 5:16:49 PM PST by The Working Man
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