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How Thomas Jefferson Responded to Islam in 1801 Puts Barack H. Obama to Shame
Conservative Tribute ^ | December 29, 2014 | Conservative Tribune

Posted on 01/12/2015 10:36:50 AM PST by holden

Obama should really pick up a history book sometime, and read about how one of his predecessors, and one of our nation’s Founding Fathers, handled the threat posed by radical Islamic jihadists, way back in 1801.

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According to Jefferson, Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja replied that Islam “was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Qur’an, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman [Muslim] who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

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To: Rutabega

Good for you! And, bless you...for teaching our future actual history...and not CommieCore ;)


21 posted on 01/12/2015 12:53:24 PM PST by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: holden

America 2015 is a far cry from USA 1801

Hell, people are afraid to speak up or disagree for fear of being sued.


22 posted on 01/12/2015 1:11:32 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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23 posted on 01/12/2015 1:14:17 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: holden

TURKISH MOSLEM PIRATES OFFSHORE AMERICA!!
1625 August 8 English fleet in danger of being attacked by Turkish pirates on the way to NE coast ``Aug. 8 Mayor Poole to the Privy Council – Unless measures are taken, the Newfoundland fleet of 250 sail, having on board four or five thousand men of the western parts, will be surprised by the Turkish pirates.``
1625 August 12 ``On 12 Aug., the Mayor of Plymouth writes that there are general fears for the ships from Virginia and Newfoundland.
Twenty-seven ships and 200 persons have been taken by the Turkish pirates
in ten days.``

sources: Biggar, p.202, cites Sainsbury, Addenda, p.75; Sainsbury, p.75,”Domestic Corres.” Car I, [Biggar, H.P., “The Early Trading Companies of New France”, 1st edit., 1901, Toronto: University of Toronto Library; reprint, Clifton, NJ: Augustus M. Kelly Publishers, 1972; New York: Sentry Press] Vol. V, No.24, Cal, p.81

. Sainsbury, p.75. ``Other letters on this subject will be found in “Domestic Corres.”, Corres., Car.I, 1625, 1626``[Sainsbury, W. Noel, Esq., Calendar of State Papers Colonial, Series 1574-1660, preserved in the state paper department of Her Majesty`s Public Record Office, London: Longman, Green, Longman and Roberts, Eyre and Spottiswood, Her Majesty`s Printers, 1860]


24 posted on 01/12/2015 1:34:42 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (re (`("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))
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To: txrefugee

The Crusade was a counter offensive against the Muslim invaders. Inconvenient fact.


25 posted on 01/12/2015 1:36:13 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: holden

We just let the mid-east country leaders know THEY are the targets if anything happens. They do not want to get their white robes all bloody.


26 posted on 01/12/2015 2:12:33 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: holden

In all fairness, it was easier for Jefferson to defend America in part because he was not a Closet uslamist who peppered his administration with muslim Brotherhoodies.


27 posted on 01/12/2015 2:31:06 PM PST by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Mariner
I agree that the US has interests worth militarily protecting in such regions.

I can't help what you think, except perhaps if you want to work on that unfortunate image, perhaps you could supplant that with thoughts of the Emmy Award winning actor, William Holden.

I have no connection to the Catcher in the Rye character, but my name does derive from thoughts of the actor, by someone apparently not so burdened by the thoughts of the former.

HF

28 posted on 01/12/2015 2:48:15 PM PST by holden
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To: Amagi

Not to mention he didn’t have to deal with a bunch of sniveling pantywaists metrosexuals.


29 posted on 01/12/2015 2:49:25 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: JimRed
Add Boko Haram to the mix.

Check!

HF

30 posted on 01/12/2015 2:51:08 PM PST by holden
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To: hattend
America 2015 is a far cry from USA 1801

Islam isn't!!!

31 posted on 01/12/2015 3:24:37 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: holden
Looking into more detail into the account, at first, Jefferson did have the resolve, but later, as the first efforts to assert American supremacy in the region foundered, Jefferson did lose some of his original willpower. In fact in the end a diplomatic solution was found. One could argue perhaps that some marine successes pushed the Barbaries into that diplomatic exchange, but many at the time leading the marines were furious that the politicians didn't proceed on their plans to siege the Moslems in their cities and bring them to their knees.
32 posted on 01/12/2015 3:29:14 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: holden

Violence has always been islam...no matter how much zero stomps his feet and shouts otherwise.


33 posted on 01/12/2015 3:41:47 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Sam Gamgee; gusty
Yes, gusty pointed out how General William Eaton might have differed with the representation of Jefferson outshining BHO. While it's true Jefferson dithered and was apparently party to paying the head-choppers tribute for a time, Gen. Eaton was thankfully purer in his actions for the cause.

Elsewhere, however, omega4412 also properly noted that, " Whoever Responded to Whatever in Whenever Would Put Barack H. Obama to Shame if BHO Had Any Sense of Shame."

HF

34 posted on 01/12/2015 3:42:35 PM PST by holden
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To: holden
"William Holden"

I appreciate the new image.

35 posted on 01/12/2015 4:14:14 PM PST by Mariner (First the GOP must die. Everything else comes after that.)
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To: terycarl

Our response (or appeasement) sure as hell is.


36 posted on 01/12/2015 5:27:43 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: holden

I don’t see how Jefferson’s response put Obama to shame. Jefferson was an American Obama is a muslim. Obama is being true to what he is, not concept that those here that worship him as the messiah and demand that he rule over them have of him. Why should he punish the muslims, he is one of them.


37 posted on 01/12/2015 5:37:50 PM PST by sport
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To: omega4412

Every one knows that Buchanan violated Southern states rights so badly that their only recourse was to secede from the United States.


38 posted on 01/12/2015 6:37:58 PM PST by X Fretensis (How)
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To: txrefugee
The Muslims always fall back on their accusation that Christians killed Muslims during the Crusades. Well DUH…Saladin, the murderous leader of Islam’s army, was slaughtering his way across Europe. Only by God’s grace did Charles Martell and his smaller forces save France and stop Islam’s march to eradicate Christianity.

Saladin was the moslem leader during the First Crusade and was never in Europe. Charles Martel defeated the moslems in the year 732, which was centuries before Saladin was born.

39 posted on 01/12/2015 6:50:08 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: Jane Long

Thanks. I have actually gotten “very far behind” the curriculum outline because I spent a long time on the Founders, the Revolution, the Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc.
Every little bit helps, right? :)


40 posted on 01/13/2015 2:21:43 AM PST by Rutabega (If you don't want me in your personal affairs, don't stick your hand out for my help.)
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