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Burning people alive is acceptable to Islam, says Islamic cleric. After all, Muhammad did it.
Flopping Aces ^ | 02-08-15 | DrJohn

Posted on 02/08/2015 2:44:43 PM PST by Starman417

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Anjem Choudary, A London-based Islamic cleric who lectures on Sharia law, says that it was acceptable to Islam to burn the Jordanian pilot alive.

"If you want to look at this from an Islamic perspective, what they are arguing is that it is qisas, in other words, reciprocation.

"The fact is that the pilots — not just this Jordanian one but many others via drones and other bombing campaigns — have burned a lot of men, women, and children, and indiscriminately.

"Obviously we don't see the pictures or images of those because they're not available, but hundreds of thousands of Muslims have been killed, most of them by Arab bombardment in Syria and Iraq.

"What these people are saying is this is a reciprocation. So they have a juristic argument to retaliate in a similar manner. This is what Allah said in the Quran — fight them back the way that they fight you."

And he added:

"Sometimes [with] the war policy, the fatwa can be given … to do certain things which you might not find palatable."

Choudary declared this action acceptable to Islam. Other clerics did not.

Muslim clerics widely denounced Islamist militants in Syria over the burning to death of a Jordanian pilot, saying such a form of killing was considered an abomination under Islam, no matter the justification.

A Quranic verse often cited reads:

‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’

But so you know, the passage reads:

Sahih al-Bukhari 6922—Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to Ali; and he burnt them. The news of this event reached Ibn Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’ I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”

Yet Muhammad himself used fire to punish his enemies. Tabari VIII:122 Ishaq:515:

"The Prophet gave orders concerning Kinanah to Zubayr, saying, 'Torture him until you root out and extract what he has. So Zubayr kindled a fire on Kinanah's chest, twirling it with his firestick until Kinanah was near death. Then the Messenger gave him to Maslamah, who beheaded him."

Ishaq:316:

"Following Badr, Muhammad sent a number of raiders with orders to capture some of the Meccans and burn them alive."

And then there's this:

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: burnedalive; choudary; fatwa; isisatrocities; islam; jordan; mohammed; obama; sharia; terrorism; unitedkingdom
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To: Starman417

The imam was being facetious when he criticized us for Hiroshima and Nagasaki (and fire bombing Tokyo and night bombing all over Germany) and Israel for killing 2,000 people in Gaza. This kind of total war is condoned by defensive jihad. Israel could have fire bombed the entire area of Gaza, then killed the males over 13, raped and sold into slavery the females over 11, and adopted all the little children into Jewish homes. At some point, this is what Israel should do something like this.


21 posted on 02/08/2015 3:41:13 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: StevenCrowder

Thought you might like to see this.


22 posted on 02/08/2015 4:02:07 PM PST by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Starman417

This guy says hundreds of thousands of “MUSLIMS” have been killed. Sounds like we’re at war against Islam. Someone needs to correct this guy.


23 posted on 02/08/2015 4:11:56 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (Obama voters are my enemy. And so are RINO voters.)
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To: Starman417

Anybody who does not condemn this religion as a whole is bloody stupid or just evil. This religion has no place in civilized society and idiots on the left are shipping it in by the plane load and telling us we are islamiphobic if we do not agree this religion is the same as all others. This is treason to our freedoms and anybody with half a brain cell know it.


24 posted on 02/08/2015 4:17:28 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Starman417
Anjem Choudary, A London-based Islamic cleric who lectures on Sharia law.

Why?

Seriously, British people and government, why?

This monster needs to be removed from British soil, and people who speak like him also. You won't allow Mike Savage into your country because of his so-called hate speech (and I don't even listen to him) so why suffer this fool who says it is allowed BU GOD to BURN TO DEATH captives who are protected by not one but several Geneva Conventions YOU--the UK--have signed and fought for?????

25 posted on 02/08/2015 4:22:18 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: VerySadAmerican
Sounds like we’re at war against Islam.

Wish, wish, wish!!!

26 posted on 02/08/2015 4:22:59 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Starman417

And to think that we invited these barbarians to live among us and pollute our society.

And to think that we have a bunch of congress critters who completely ignore the national peril we find ourselves in.


27 posted on 02/08/2015 4:28:55 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: rawcatslyentist

ISIS, Boko Haram and Al-Qaeda are not Muslim and do not practice Islam.


28 posted on 02/08/2015 4:34:04 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Starman417
I can't get past his "high horse" comment....Such arrogance

And tell me again that he's not a muzzie...

29 posted on 02/08/2015 4:41:14 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: 353FMG

“ISIS, Boko Haram and Al-Qaeda are not Muslim and do not practice Islam.”

According to the current occupant of the Oval office, who claims to be a Christian.......so how would he know?
From my study they seem to following the koran and the example set by Mad Mo pretty closely.


30 posted on 02/08/2015 5:38:54 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace- No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Starman417

Nothing this creep says should ever make it in print. He loves the publicity and just wait, they’ll have him on the news programs this week so he can spout his nonsense. Giving these cretins all this publicity should be stopped. They live for it. Why do we fall for it?


31 posted on 02/08/2015 5:40:01 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Lurkinanloomin
OBAMA CAN SAY CHRISTIAN CRUSADES BUT NOT ISLAMIC TERRORISM

Is it Obama’s Islamophilia or is it Christianophobia?

IT IS OK TO BEHEAD AND BURN INFIDELS ALIVE , MOHAMMED DID IT.

Long before the Crusades, starting with Mohammed to the present times, the Muslims have been committing unbelievable atrocities in the name of Allah and Islam. Jesus preached love, even for our enemies; Muhammad, with his scimitar in hand, ordered to behead or to burn alive the infidels that did not convert to Islam.

“But doesn’t Islam prohibit burning people alive? To answer this question, we need to first look at Muhammad, who spoke for Allah (4:80) and is considered the standard of perfect conduct for Muslims (33:21). Muhammad had no qualms about burning people.

In December 627 Muhammad led an attack against the Al-Mustalaq tribe. Because that tribe fought back, Muhammad ordered their fortifications to be set on fire, even though the Muslims knew there were women and children inside.

Around June 628, when Kinanah bin al-Rabi of the Jewish Bani al-Nadir tribe would not reveal where his conquered tribe’s treasures were hidden, Muhammad ordered one of his soldiers, “Torture him until you extract what he has,” so a fire was built on Kinanah’s chest until Kinanah nearly died.

In June 632, after Muhammad’s death, an attack on Ubna that he had earlier ordered took place. The leader of the Muslim force said,

… the Messenger of God commanded me and this was his last command to me: …to raid them, without inviting them [to Islam], and to destroy and burn.<>/P>

The Life of Muhammad: Al-Waqidi’s Kitab al-Maghazi, p. 549

And Muhammad even considered burning down Muslims’ houses around them to compel their attendance at congregational prayers:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dr-stephen-m-kirby/islam-and-burning-people-alive/ Also http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/Anjem-Choudary-Islamic-State-ISIS-pilot/2015/02/05/id/622993/

32 posted on 02/09/2015 11:19:38 AM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPxjpg)
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To: Dqban22

Islam has been at war with everyone else since its inception. See tagline.


33 posted on 02/09/2015 4:35:12 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace- No Islam, Know Peace)
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