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A Few Thoughts on the Waco Biker Shootout
chrishernandezauthor ^ | 21 May 15 | Chris Hernandez

Posted on 05/21/2015 11:35:16 AM PDT by OK Sun

So this Waco thing has caught my interest, mostly because of all the dumb things being said about it. I’m no expert and have no direct connection to the Waco Biker shootout, nor do I have access to anything more than media reports. However, based on my experience as a patrolman, assistant active shooter instructor and soldier I’ve made a few observations and educated guesses about what happened.

1) I predict we’ll soon learn most or all of the dead bikers were shot by police officers

I base this on a couple things, but the biggest one is a comment the Waco PD spokesman included in the official statement: “Our officers treated it as an active shooter scene.” An active shooter’s goal is to kill as many people as possible rather than steal money, take hostages or escape. A police officer who encounters an active shooter has one mission: stop the killing. The best way to stop that killing is by quickly engaging the active shooter with accurate gunfire. The Waco shooting took place in a crowded restaurant within a crowded shopping center with several businesses and restaurants full of innocent civilians. Police officers outside Twin Peaks could be expected to treat bikers firing shots in the parking lot as active shooters.

The affiliations of the bikers would obviously play a part in how the officers perceived the threat they presented. At least some of the bikers involved in the Waco shootout were “1%ers” or “outlaw bikers”. That’s what they call themselves, not just what police call them. Many wear 1% patches on their vests, in reference to the “99% of motorcycle riders are law-abiding citizens” comment made after the first riotous motorcycle rally in 1947; a 1% patch means they’re not law abiders. ...

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Someone on another post was talking about this. This is one man's view. Excellent author, by the way.
1 posted on 05/21/2015 11:35:16 AM PDT by OK Sun
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To: OK Sun

If my intent was to ambush 180 bikers, I would bring more than 20 cops.


2 posted on 05/21/2015 11:39:01 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

Looks as if they had a few expert snipers amongst the 20.


3 posted on 05/21/2015 11:41:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: USNBandit

I just have the feeling if the bloods and the crips had a knife fight and some guns were pulled, there would either be none dead or the country would be burning because of the nine dead.


4 posted on 05/21/2015 11:41:09 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: OK Sun

So where is the new Attorney General on this incident? Don’t we need Sharpton to organize a march against the out of control police. Maybe the mayor of Waco can get some advice from that clown of a mayor in Baltimore.


5 posted on 05/21/2015 11:41:12 AM PDT by shadeaud (Be strong when you are weak and stand up for our Constitution.)
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Oh good, an excerpted blog from a one-month old account.


6 posted on 05/21/2015 11:42:32 AM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: OK Sun

“At least some of the bikers involved in the Waco shootout were “1%ers” or “outlaw bikers”. “

I had one on another thread trying to convince me that the 1% were actually law-abiding and the reference was only to the 1% that did not adhere to AMA guidelines.


7 posted on 05/21/2015 11:43:29 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: OK Sun

“Many wear 1% patches on their vests”

Oh many go further than that, usually have “1%er” inked on their body, most of the time in a conspicuous place. Something they are very proud of.


8 posted on 05/21/2015 11:44:42 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Maybe, or maybe the bikers were just grouped together tight enough that you could fire in their general direction and be guaranteed to hit something.


9 posted on 05/21/2015 11:45:08 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Earlier report said the all the dead were taken with head shots...


10 posted on 05/21/2015 11:46:14 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: OK Sun

The original story from the police is starting to sprout holes...
Breibart has a good article up about it.

Seems the purpose of the meeting was POLITICAL, to discuss a proposed new motorcycle law.


11 posted on 05/21/2015 11:46:20 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: GreenAccord

Actually, it’s a month and four days.


12 posted on 05/21/2015 11:46:25 AM PDT by OK Sun (Freedom is not just another word.)
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To: OK Sun
Interesting and well-written. What a paradox - you see this photo of compliant dudes in leathers all sitting patiently in line waiting to be searched.

And a few moments prior were swinging chains and bats?

Not like Baltimore or Ferguson.

13 posted on 05/21/2015 11:48:18 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: OK Sun

In Baltimore the police stood down and the unrest continued for days. In Waco the cops unoaded on the rioters, and it was over in minutes.

For some reason, the idiot left thinks that’s “racist”.


14 posted on 05/21/2015 11:49:02 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: USNBandit
If my intent was to ambush 180 bikers, I would bring more than 20 cops.

I wouldn't.

Ten trained men with scoped rifles, presighted from prepared positions, applying aimed deliberate fire into a crowd - that's all you need.

They sure didn't need more.
15 posted on 05/21/2015 11:53:16 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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To: TexasGator

Ha!


16 posted on 05/21/2015 11:55:08 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Well, that’s a different story then. Maybe you could get one lucky headshot, but not all of them.


17 posted on 05/21/2015 11:55:38 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: tcrlaf

My gut reaction is Obama did this (sent signals to TX that a war was coming) for some reason, wanting a bloodbath. I blame the feds more than TX. The whole thing seemed bizarre from day 1.


18 posted on 05/21/2015 12:01:32 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: OK Sun

According to an article in the LA Times the weapons recovered are in the below excerpt:

“According to the statement, the total was 318 weapons “and still counting. We do expect the numbers to continue to rise.”

The weapons recovered include 118 handguns, 157 knives and 43 others, which includes brass knuckles and chains. Some weapons had been quickly stashed — under seat cushions and even in a toilet. Police also said an AK-47 assault rifle was recovered.”

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-waco-weapons-recovered-20150521-story.html


19 posted on 05/21/2015 12:02:18 PM PDT by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin....and the turkey has.)
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To: Boogieman

I wouldn’t say that, there are those that can do it every time at that range.


20 posted on 05/21/2015 12:03:01 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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