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For those who aren't confused enough by how we all got here. Who knew there was hidden time?

actually, the article introduces new observations, theories about the Universe I've never heard before in a clear easy to understand way.

1 posted on 05/29/2015 2:32:28 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

They now say that there was no Big Bang. Everything has existed for ever.


2 posted on 05/29/2015 2:34:25 PM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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Can someone explain this meaningless juxtaposition of unrelated terms: “hidden time”.


4 posted on 05/29/2015 2:37:12 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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Mark


5 posted on 05/29/2015 2:39:35 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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Stephen Hawking has said “asking what happened before the big bang is like asking what is one foot north of the north pole.”


7 posted on 05/29/2015 2:42:45 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: lbryce
Hidden Time

Not to be confused with hidden fees.

8 posted on 05/29/2015 2:43:24 PM PDT by corlorde (Oath Keeper)
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To: lbryce
It was Edwin Hubble whose telescopic observations of galaxies in 1929 led to the major discovery that the universe is expanding.

Bet that was a real shock to this the Father.


13 posted on 05/29/2015 2:49:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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It is just possible that our ability to comprehend it is almost as strong as a dog’s ability to understand FM Radio.


14 posted on 05/29/2015 2:49:35 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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rofl!! what the @#$ is your IQ if this is clear and easy to understand? mine is 140 and i didn’t understand a word of it. There are too many geniuses on this board and it’s hitting my self esteem lol


15 posted on 05/29/2015 2:49:44 PM PDT by dp0622
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*shrug* There is an entire reality no further away from you at any moment than the length of an arm, which is completely beyond your ability to sense it to know it is there. Of course, if/when someone reaches from there to your 4D spacetime, well, that's exciting! (See Daniel Chapter five)
33 posted on 05/29/2015 3:38:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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They have to keep inventing fancies like this to keep from facing the simple truth.


35 posted on 05/29/2015 4:02:49 PM PDT by 9thLife (The dream is free. The hustle is sold separately.)
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We really have no idea how this happened, which naturally gives rise to many theories.

My theory is that a little girl in another dimension got a Universe Kit for her birthday.

36 posted on 05/29/2015 4:03:47 PM PDT by Buttons12
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From the article: Ah! Ok.
37 posted on 05/29/2015 4:05:40 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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Guth suggests the entire universe came essentially out of nowhere, at a rate that is incomprehensible: Within a trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second, the universe expanded by a factor of 1078 in volume — that's a 10 with 78 zeros after it. We really have no idea how this happened, which naturally gives rise to many theories.

My theory: "And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light."

38 posted on 05/29/2015 4:11:51 PM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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I swear these scientists just sit around and make this stuff up to mess with us.


40 posted on 05/29/2015 4:21:41 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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Question: What came before the Big Bang?

Answer: The Big Dinner and a couple of drinks.

56 posted on 05/30/2015 4:29:05 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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There is the bang and there is the crunch. both are related to energy and gravity.

after the bang, a release of matter, the matter is dispersed in all directions because the force of the energetic discharge is greater than the gravity holding the matter together.

at some point, as the matter travels outward from the point of discharge, the force of gravity will begin to reassert and slow and finally overcome the energetic force of dispersion.

at that point, collapse will begin and gravity will cause all the matter to accrete towards the origin and the crunch will complete the cycle.

locally, the moon is accreted matter formerly earth rings. The nine planets and all the asteroids are the sun’s rings. All will are part of the milky way galactic accretion

galactic accretion is the result of gravitational attraction within matter in the dispersing matter field and a precursor to the reverse action or collapse to the crunch.

I know you didn’t ask, but I felt duty bound to remove all the equations and calculations and set the matter straight in simple terms.

PS: Time is the interval between the initial bang dispersal and the final crunch accretion


57 posted on 05/30/2015 4:34:35 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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Mathematician and artist.


64 posted on 05/30/2015 8:53:28 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: lbryce; Alamo-Girl; marron; hosepipe; metmom; xzins; YHAOS; TXnMA; MHGinTN
The introduction of this time variable was done for mathematical purposes as described earlier, to find a slower time scale near the Big Bang. Its interpretation as being another time scale is convenient mathematically, but its physical relevance needs to be further studied.

You asked: "Who knew there was a hidden time?" And yet, I don't think Belbruno was explicitly arguing that there is "hidden time." What he's doing is using mathematical probes (if I might call them that) to test various hypotheses. As tremendously useful as mathematics is, it routinely uses concepts that are widely regarded as not physically constructible; e.g., the notion of infinity. The physical case — the "physical relevance" of t-prime — requires further study, just as Belbruno notes in the above italics. That will require the construction of relevant, replicable experiments. And that may be easier said than done.

What I find interesting is that mathematically-constructed cosmologies in general do not seem to be reconcilable with the Second Law of Thermodynamics, specifically with the problem of entropy. If the universe in fact "eternally" cycles between boom and bust periods, it's easy to see how the busts happen; but what reboots the next boom, the next big bang? It is widely believed that entropy necessarily increases, or at best stays the same, in a closed system. The problem is, there is evidently no way for human beings to tell whether the universe, as a global physical system, is open or closed.

But it's instructive to entertain the speculations of mathematical cosmologists nonetheless. Especially if they are also artists and regarded as exceptionally gifted in the intuition department.

75 posted on 05/30/2015 12:19:53 PM PDT by betty boop (Science deserves all the love we can give it, but that love should not be blind. — NR>)
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Bttt


89 posted on 05/31/2015 9:15:14 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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