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So You Say You’re Against Symbols that Represent Treason?
Flopping Aces ^ | 06-25-15 | Brother Bob

Posted on 06/25/2015 7:52:47 PM PDT by Starman417

The Confederate Flag Two Minutes Hate has reached a new level of stupidity - Apple is removing all games that depict a Confederate flag. I haven't weighed in on the subject of the Confederate Flag issue since almost every conceivable angle on it has pretty much been written. I'm pretty much in the "It belongs in a museum" camp that a lot of conservatives have expressed. I do think that moves to ban its private ownership and scrub this flag from society are wrong, though. I understand all of the con arguments and think they have merit. Here is my take on the pro argument.

Most Southerners didn't own slaves. They also have far greater ties to the Civil War than the rest of us. There is a great book called Confederates in the Attic. that I highly recommend. The most telling thing I learned from the book is that while in the north between 2 and 3 out of 10 people have an ancestor that fought in the Civil War, in the south that number rises to 6 out of 10. For many Southerners the Civil War wasn't about slavery, rather it was based on the stories passed down via their grandparents about how they were just looking to defend their land from an invading army. This isn't to discount black Americans who have had stories passed down from their grandparents about what it was like being a slave, but my point is that the Confederate flag isn't as clear cut as the radical left's talking points. But this isn't why I wrote this post.

I think it's great that lefties are ready to take such a principled stand against a symbol of treason against the United States. As it happens there is an act of treason that involves a very public figure right now! What would you say if I told you...

A high ranking diplomat abused the office to set up a money laundering operation.

The money laundering involved using the position to accept bribes from foreign governments who wanted to buy influence over the White House

The operation helped to fund terrorists.

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: confederate; nullification
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1 posted on 06/25/2015 7:52:47 PM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

We need to get Ebay, KMart or Walmart, etc. to ban the sale of Che Guevera shirts and stickers, the Cuban Communist Flag, and the Flag of Iran, Red China, No. Korea and Russia since all are sponsors of “State terrorism” and aggression against their neighbors.

Also no statues allowed of mass murderers/advocates of, such as Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Che, etc. in the US or US possessions, or they must put up next to them statues of Hitler, Himmler and Eichmann.

Equality of free expression is a two way street, comrades and libs. However, if you stand in the middle of a two-way street, you are going to get hit from both sides, and deservedly so.

We can have a lot of fun in the newspapers and on talk shows using this countering approach re the Confederate Battle Flag (which I do not like but would not try to banish from history).


2 posted on 06/25/2015 7:59:06 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: Starman417

This is happening fast like the virus that causes a zombie apocalypse. Can’t recall anything like this.


3 posted on 06/25/2015 7:59:09 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Starman417

“”I’m pretty much in the “It belongs in a museum” camp that a lot of conservatives have expressed.””

That is not a conservative position, that is the surrender and bend over position


4 posted on 06/25/2015 8:19:36 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Sasparilla
This is happening fast like the virus that causes a zombie apocalypse. Can’t recall anything like this.

Me either. I actually came up with a GREAT conspiracy theory for it, though. If "they" knew Obamacare would be upheld, and gay marriage too, then "they" might have wanted to remove THE symbol of fighting federal oppression in American history - the Confederate flag. After all, it literally represents Civil War. So if you think of it that way, this could remove a rallying point for national anger being expressed stupidly. And so, though in itself it's historically a false target and completely idiotic, the removal of it as quick, effective flash point would actually be a good thing right now.

5 posted on 06/25/2015 8:25:05 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Sasparilla
You're right - the virus is called Leftist fascism. In only 48 hours, the amount of Confederate-related merchandise on eBay has dropped about 99%. I've been watching.


6 posted on 06/25/2015 8:27:48 PM PDT by Viking2002 (The Avatar is back by popular request.)
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To: Starman417
How about banning pictures of John Kerry powwowing with the North Vietnamese in Paris and Jane Fonda giggling about shooting down American pilots with her North Vietnamese antiaircraft gun?
7 posted on 06/25/2015 8:28:06 PM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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The civil war was not a civil war technically, as no one was trying to overthrow the US government. It was really a war of Independence, just like the USA revolutionary war or the Texas War of Independence from Mexico. The CSA set up its own President, congress, branches of government, printed its own money, claimed independence and broke away. All flags in a war of independence are a symbol of treason in that respect. I don’t think the UK suddenly gets butt hurt over seeing the American flag though at one time it was a flag of treason.


8 posted on 06/25/2015 8:28:22 PM PDT by GregoTX (Remember the Alamo)
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To: Sasparilla
This is happening fast like the virus that causes a zombie apocalypse.

There is little time left. We must BAN EVERYONE who wants to BAN ANYTHING.

9 posted on 06/25/2015 8:29:47 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Exactly! The Flag must be defended on the First Amendment Alone!!!!


10 posted on 06/25/2015 8:43:50 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Starman417

Your premise is flawed.
Leftists don’t care about treason.


11 posted on 06/25/2015 9:07:39 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

What about any businesses affiliation with Planned Parenthood? Many big businesses like to donate to liberal causes such as Planned Parenthood.


12 posted on 06/25/2015 9:15:41 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: Sasparilla

Is there any kind of precedent for this & there is no redress for the people? I’d think a state of emergency would have needed to be declared to act this quickly & this absolutely.

Who knew that governors could just do anything they had a whim to do?


13 posted on 06/25/2015 9:17:18 PM PDT by KGeorge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground)
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To: cradle of freedom

How about signs with red hand prints on it. “Blood on their hands. Don’t support this business it supports killing babies in the womb. There have been 30 million abortions in this country.”

Pass out flyers to shoppers walking by.


14 posted on 06/25/2015 9:18:47 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Yeah don’t they sell t shirts with the cop killer Mumia


15 posted on 06/25/2015 9:24:31 PM PDT by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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To: Sasparilla
This is happening fast like the virus that causes a zombie apocalypse. Can’t recall anything like this.

Yes, this is a big, organized effort. Media coordinating with government, and probably federal government leaning hard on state and local officials (and maybe companies, too). Unprecedented.

16 posted on 06/25/2015 9:36:22 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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I can’t count high enough to count the things that have occurred under the Obama regime that were unprecedented.


17 posted on 06/25/2015 9:51:30 PM PDT by sport
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To: GregoTX
"The civil war was not a civil war technically, as no one was trying to overthrow the US government. It was really a war of Independence, just like the USA revolutionary war or the Texas War of Independence from Mexico. The CSA set up its own President, congress, branches of government, printed its own money, claimed independence and broke away."

I never thought of it that way before, but you make a pretty good point. However, some would consider secession to be a form of treason.
18 posted on 06/25/2015 9:52:51 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Sasparilla
This is happening fast like the virus that causes a zombie apocalypse. Can’t recall anything like this.

This is why I am convinced this was all planned in advance and ready to implement.

19 posted on 06/25/2015 10:01:21 PM PDT by ponygirl (Put. A. Bird. On. It.)
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To: Starman417

That Lee quote at the bottom is quite apropos considering this situation that we face. Would that we all had this mentality when fighting our battles—big and small, political or personal. I am tired of people capitulating to the ever-shifting sands of modern “culture” and it’s time we collectively put our foot down and take the wheel away from those who seek to drive us off the cliff.


20 posted on 06/25/2015 10:06:43 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("Woe to you lawyers as well! For you weigh men down with burdens hard to bear..."- Luke 11:46)
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