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Waco Bikers And The Blackstone Ratio
Motorcycle Profiling Project ^ | June 12, 2015 | David Devereaux

Posted on 06/29/2015 8:23:31 AM PDT by don-o

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To: AMDG&BVMH

Yeah, the bikers’ own statements match up with the indictment on that stuff, the only thing that doesn’t match is the apologists’ stories around here.


81 posted on 06/30/2015 6:29:46 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman; Finny

” the apologists’ stories “

If I hadn’t read so many of Finny’s posts I would be sure that he wrote this as sarcasm ...


I’m starting to feel like an idiot — I believed that because the Bandidos are a “Tier two” criminal gang according to police and I’ve heard biker friends say they’ve heard of bad ones, I bought into the Hells Angel myth. The Bandidos look very much like a pretty square manly club of Veteran dudes who are trying to change that bad image in a biker brotherhood. Their patch is positively benign. It would be laughable if it wasn’t so crazy tragic and like a slow train wreck, a bad novel.


82 posted on 06/30/2015 6:33:58 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator; Finny

It’s kind of too pathetic to even respond to. The largest criminal biker gang in the state is now just a bunch of vets out for a Sunday ride?

I mean, who is going to be dumb enough to believe that?


83 posted on 06/30/2015 7:11:12 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Jack Black

Thank you for your post. One question about the following:

“And growing up in Detroit both the Outlaws and the Highwaymen were not people you wanted to be around, even casually. “

I believe that the Bandidos certainly fit that category also. That said, why would decent bikers select them to be the leaders in the various chapters of the Texas Confederation of Clubs and Independents?


84 posted on 06/30/2015 7:24:45 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Boomer

All those ‘choirboys’ involved just meeting to discuss motorcycle safety will be getting new careers, making license plates.


85 posted on 06/30/2015 7:26:49 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt

“All those ‘choirboys’ involved just meeting to discuss motorcycle safety will be getting new careers, making license plates.”

I wonder what the attendance figures will be for the next BAndidos Confederation meeting will be?


86 posted on 06/30/2015 7:33:05 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: don-o

Probably talking about COMMON SENSE everyone there should have known.

All associated with any gang knew exactly what this was about, turf. Now that was very grown up of them wasn’t it?

What everyone other than you sniveling criminal bike gang sympathizer apologists knows is these outlaw trash thugs are getting what they deserve.


87 posted on 06/30/2015 7:34:45 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt
Translation: Source is your opinion.

I guess you're not confident in the poison you use for the well; so you need to keep dumping more in.

88 posted on 06/30/2015 7:40:16 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Boogieman

Not one of these bike gang hoodlum characters or their admiring wannabes here give a damn about truth or logic. They instead failingly are trying to practice some liberal style victimhood ploy for the violent dregs of society. Hands up Don’t shoot!


89 posted on 06/30/2015 7:45:11 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt

Yep, and the sad thing is, people are falling for it. I wonder why. Is it because these criminals are old white guys and not young black guys?


90 posted on 06/30/2015 8:09:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: TexasGator
"http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/29/black-lives-matter-protesters-disrupt-chicago-gay-pride-parade/" ...I took this as sarcasm.
91 posted on 06/30/2015 8:52:07 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black
You might be interested in this story from a couple of years ago involving the Bandidos & one of their puppet clubs called Ressurection extorting a motorcycle store owner outside Olympia.

Feds: Outlaw biker behind hostile takeover of Tumwater cycle shop

92 posted on 06/30/2015 9:43:20 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: TexasGator
Sorry, *this* is what I took as sarcasm, based on the tone:

I’m starting to feel like an idiot — I believed that because the Bandidos are a “Tier two” criminal gang according to police and I’ve heard biker friends say they’ve heard of bad ones, I bought into the Hells Angel myth. The Bandidos look very much like a pretty square manly club of Veteran dudes who are trying to change that bad image in a biker brotherhood. Their patch is positively benign. It would be laughable if it wasn’t so crazy tragic and like a slow train wreck, a bad novel.

But maybe I was mistaken.

93 posted on 06/30/2015 10:13:58 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: mad_as_he$$; don-o

Of course criminals have right too. The right to a fair trial, the right to remain silent.

Personally I am happy to give criminal bike gang thugs the same rights they give their victims of terrorizing, intimidation, denying others the right to association, beating someone with a hammer for some ‘rocker’, murdered for ‘disrespecting’, selling kids the really bad drugs like crack/meth/heroin, stealing and destroying peoples property. Oh, and how about the rights of the girls they force into prostitution?

When they begin respecting everyone else’s rights, they can have theirs back. Otherwise as long as they and any of their sniveling groupies are presenting themselves in public dressed like and acting like hoodlums, they will be treated as hoodlums they so diligently try to portray.


94 posted on 06/30/2015 11:24:23 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: MrEdd

Still see ya void of any horse sense, Mr. Ed.

None of us that counter your false narrative here on FR assume all motorcycle riders are tools of the devil. We all know and have friends that ride peacefully.

That pretending to be tools of the devil is the role many such as your heros the bike gangers and wannabes obviously want to portray in some terroristic ploy to push law abiding citizens around and deny everyone else their Constitutional Rights.


95 posted on 06/30/2015 11:37:53 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Jack Black

Along with your intentional misrepresenting the criminality of bike gangs, you here try to legitimize the clearly biased OPINION piece written by David Devereaux by falsely calling it an article.


96 posted on 06/30/2015 11:42:47 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Jack Black

no reasonable and particular evidence against many of them, they were just at the event

And you know this by what objective verifiable fact? Or is this just more of the cover-up narrative?


97 posted on 06/30/2015 11:51:10 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Finny

Bull Shit is right!
Criminal thugs are criminals 100% of the time unless they have paid their price to society and no longer participate or associate with criminals.


98 posted on 06/30/2015 11:56:29 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: don-o

You post drivel, I counter, EVERYTIME I see it. Unless of course something nefarious occurs like a house dropping on me.......


99 posted on 06/30/2015 12:03:34 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt

“All those ‘choirboys’ involved just meeting to discuss motorcycle safety will be getting new careers, making license plates.”

I didn’t realize the cops were there to discuss motorcycle safety too. Hmmm... learn something new every day. I would be more interested in seeing the person or people who gave the order to massacre the bikers have to pay for their high crimes. Even if it was an unlawful order given to those on the ground; it was still an order. Aww heck. Let’s just see justice for all of them; including any bikers who may have started the episode making sure to compensate all the others handsomely who were just there or were trying to protect themselves from lawless police or bikers; whichever the case may be.

I don’t believe most police are corrupt; but some sure are. It’s looking like there is a nest of them in Waco. The longer this drags on the worse the police look. The more they try to keep info from the public and those they accused of a crime; the worse the police and prosecutors in Waco look and by extension. The state judiciary.

Those being accused have the right to see the evidence against them and to face their accusers when that time comes if these cases are not dismissed long before then. Then it comes down to the civil actions against those who broke the law and ruined so many lives.


100 posted on 06/30/2015 12:28:11 PM PDT by Boomer (America; love it or leave it. It isn't just a bumper sticker.)
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