If you read what you wrote you will see it is you that brought up the ‘ordained minister’ excuse. Now you trying to run away from that fanciful drift?
Where are you getting your information? Sounds like don’t0’s fiction.
You, me and anyone else with a CHL will be arrested on SUSPICION if we happen to be at a shooting where 9 were killed and 20+ wounded. You naively think Conceal Carry is Get Out of Jail Free card?
Why would you think the WPD or Da’s office is obligated to release any information on an ongoing investigation?
Most of those arrested have been released without charges, bond reduced and released charged or are unable to make bond. Give one name of someone not yet released and not charged.
I have no issue with defending non-criminal’s Constitutional Rights. I do have a big problem with some here making unsubstantiated claims of Rights being denied, but seem to never have any specifics on the Rights denied.
I have a big problem with (apparent) law abiding conservatives here trying to use dis-information and false Constitutional claims to give cover and excuses for criminals that routinely deny everyone else their Constitutional Rights to not be terrorized, intimidated, endangered in public, murdered, or have blatant drug dealing and prostitution in their communities.
Anyone here or elsewhere that excuses or give cover to anyone who participated, in any degree, with the Waco shootout, are fools, and foolishly bring disdain and a bad reputation to this important conservative forum. I do not suffer fools well!
” I do have a big problem with some here making unsubstantiated claims of Rights being denied, but seem to never have any specifics on the Rights denied.”
Don-o ran like a rabbit when I challenged him to discuss specifics.
I haven’t run away from anything. I just stated it’s not my business or anyone’s business what the guy was ordained as. My statement stands. An ordained minister, and many others without criminal records were arrested on BS charges, held in jail under ridiculous bail, denied access to council for almost a month.
Plenty long enough for the Police, ATF, and the DA to all get their stories to match. You don’t think that’s enough of a violation of their rights? Let a police force do that to a black person and see what happens.
I don’t naively think anything about my CCW permit. I know exactly what the rules are. I used it as an example of how the government will ignore any right that doesn’t suit them at the time. Most of those guys were arrested carring pocket knives. According to the media they were arrested for “Dangerous Weapons”. No they were arrested for association. Freedom of Association is there in the First Amendment I believe.
Terrorized, intimidated, endangered, by guy on a motorcycle, riding with friends, wearing colors? I’ve known quite a few of those type people. As a matter of fact I would be on a motorcycle, long hair and beard, in leathers, maybe not colors, except a charitable club, if I wasn’t crippled. Not one of the guys I know have ever done any of the things you accuse them of. The ones I know ride to work everyday, home most nights, and get together on weekends. You know seems I remember about 1,000,000 of them riding to DC a couple of years ago to raise awareness of Veterans issues. I also remember every Veterans funeral is escorted by whatever clubs are in the area to keep those a$$holes from Westboro Baptist Church from harassing the soldiers loved ones. Many of them ride weekends to raise money for disabled Vets, children, collect toys for kids at Christmas, and have a deep love for the freedom America grants them to jump on their bike and, ride where they want. Of course the government can’t allow Americans to have that level of freedom anymore. Or the freedom to get together and figure out ways to get that government off their head, and out of their lives.
Ever ask yourself how all those cops, and federal agents knew to be at that restaurant the very day a bunch of a$$holes show up to pick a fight with a group that had been meeting there for a couple of years with no incidents?
You mark my words. You don’t think it can happen to you? They couldn’t destroy the TEA Party with the IRS, they can’t get away with passing new gun laws. Remember the story, They came for the Confederate flag, but I didn’t care because I’m not from the south, etc... Conservatives have already been called terrorists multiple times by this administration. Do you honestly believe the media is gonna tell the truth when they find a reason to kill or arrest us?
I can hear Lester Holt on NBC News now, “A rightwing extremist group was arrested and jailed today for threatening to overthrow the US government.”
You believe what you want, I pray your naivete is born out. I have always been a supporter of police (until they shoot a dog), But this situation is different, and it should be setting off alarms with every Conservative in this country, sadly for too many I fear that alarm wont go until the federal forces are knocking on their door demanding their guns.
As far as those that agree with me that we are not being told the truth by the gov, or the police about what happened in Waco, well you are in the minority, so you’ll either have to suffer who you call fools, or find other activities. I wont be silenced by you or anyone else (exception to JimRob, or admins). I will continue the clarion call anytime I see a clear abuse of power by a government entity.