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Trump Has Succeeded in Convincing Conservatives to Discard their Principles Overnight
National Review ^
| September 01, 2015
| CHARLES C. W. COOKE
Posted on 09/01/2015 5:06:30 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
NRO has no moral authority
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:29:19 PM PDT
by
wardaddy
(White boy wiggers in pickups Rebel Flags and cowboy rap....FMR meanwhile war on whites steams ahead)
To: Steelfish
I've been voting for extremely Liberal Republicans for a long, long time. Bush, Dole, Romney, etc.There is just no way Trump is worse than those guys who were "inevitable", "electable" and who had "waited their turn".
It is extremely disingenuous for the GOPe to come out and say. "You can't vote for Trump -- he's a Liberal!"
Cruz is still my #1, but Trump is impressing the hell out of me. Trump is putting the spotlight on some important issues that should be central to any thoughtful Conservative. I do not agree with the people who bash Trump 24/7. I suspect that they feel threatened by a Republican candidate who opposes the Political Elite.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:30:20 PM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(Cruz is still my #1, but Trump is impressing the hell out of me.)
To: dschapin
Like Cruz a lot, but he would not get the support Trump gets, nor would he get the nomination.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:30:31 PM PDT
by
dforest
To: kabar
If you are losing the argument then just attack the messenger. Let me list the steps that Trump supporters take when responding to any criticism.
1. Its a hit piece.
2. You must support Jeb.
3. Ronald Reagan was a democrat at one time
4. Its just the media, or the Gope going on the attack and must mean that they are scared.
Seriously guys, you need to start vetting Trump - he is completely taking you for a ride.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:31:23 PM PDT
by
dschapin
To: Steelfish
They just don’t get it. We don’t want a president who will reach out and unite us with the socialists. We want a wrecking ball who destroy them and their grip on DC.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:31:59 PM PDT
by
Caipirabob
(Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
To: ground_fog
Cruz has a reputation for honesty and he is opposed to amnesty.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:34:27 PM PDT
by
dschapin
To: Steelfish
Of course Cruz is the desired nominee.
But he won’t get elected on just conservative votes, can he form a strong moderate/conservative coalition?
Maybe, there’s plenty of time yet.
That is Trump’s big draw: that he does seem to have that winning coalition. The coalition that would get conservatives ‘something’ at last.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:35:44 PM PDT
by
mrsmith
(Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
To: kabar
Basically many freepers are not conservatives at all. They only care about one issue immigration and as long as someone attacks foreigners enough and blames all of America’s problems on them then these freepers will support him come hell or high water.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:35:59 PM PDT
by
dschapin
To: Steelfish
So, far principles have gotton us Dole, W.Bush,McCain,Romney and now J Bush.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:36:30 PM PDT
by
Leep
(Cut the crap!)
To: Lee Enfield
I have always done that. But I will not do that anymore.
Had enough of it because it has gotten us nowhere.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:37:19 PM PDT
by
dforest
To: Steelfish
he makes a good point. Trump gave money to hitlery, supported liberal policies but because he said something right on immigration all that liberalism is ignored.
Romney must be bewildered since he was called a flip flopper, untrustworthy by the same people supporting Trump and Romney supported self deportation!
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:37:56 PM PDT
by
RginTN
To: Steelfish
Conservatives don't discard their principles overnight.
Those who make the now prevailing dishonest noise in politics never were conservatives.
Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.phpAmerican Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%
Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think) National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"
...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:38:26 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
To: BfloGuy
We have posters on Free Republic that prefer a Hillary or Bernie Administration to any Republican except for Trump. That is their position carried to its logical conclusion.
I wonder how many of the Trump cultists supported Wallace in 68, or Anderson in 80, or Buchanan or Perot in 92 or 2000?
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:39:22 PM PDT
by
Oklahoma
To: Steelfish
There might be no way to stop the tide of socialism except through economic collapse to force shrinkage of government.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:39:44 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
To: kabar
I agree with you . Immigration is the only issue that matters right now.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:40:28 PM PDT
by
Democrat_media
(obamatrade is a Trojan horse for unlimited immigration to the USA)
To: kabar
I agree with you . Immigration is the only issue that matters right now.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:40:31 PM PDT
by
Democrat_media
(obamatrade is a Trojan horse for unlimited immigration to the USA)
To: dschapin
Basically many freepers are not conservatives at all. They only care about one issue immigration and as long as someone attacks foreigners enough and blames all of Americas problems on them then these freepers will support him come hell or high water.Life long conservative and veteran.
I am for Trump. Why? I know he is squish on many many issues but he is dead solid on immigration. The country is dying and immigration and Free Trade are killing it. So I am gambling that he will come thru on some if the things that I feel are critical which out weigh any stupid things that I know he will do.
With RINOs I get, well, nothing.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:40:44 PM PDT
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: Political Junkie Too
Perhaps it's because life-long conservatives have heard enough of conservative pronouncements from Republicans to not believe THEM anymore.I think that sort of proves his point. For many, winning is more important than what is being won.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:42:27 PM PDT
by
semimojo
To: dschapin
The dilemma many of us have though is that if this unfettered immigration keeps up, our way of life and voting power go away regardless.
Look at the last presidential election. Florida, North Carolina, Colorado and Virginia all went blue because of this massive immigration. You have states like California and Illinois that are now massive electoral vote troves that are permanently blue due to immigration. It won’t be long before stalwart red states go blue as well.
We can debate Arthur Laffer tax curves and planned parenthood all day long once we re-establish that we have a country here. Otherwise every other issue is moot.
To: Steelfish
Here's the ugly truth that none of the Republicans want to acknowledge:
The system is set against conservatives, aka Americans. The game is rigged. The system is set up so that no matter who wins, from which party, the country moves left, further away from its founding principles and adherence to the Constitution, and further into left-wing nutbaggism, debauchery, and servitude. It truly doesn't matter which "acceptable" Republican candidate wins the nomination, whether it be Jeb or Kasich or Romney or whoever - the country moves left because the system is set that way.
SO here comes a guy, Trump, who appears to be smashing the system, breaking its rules, kicking the operators in the teeth, and smiling while he's doing it. Why the hell wouldn't conservatives support him? Why wouldn't they support the one guy that is bucking the system that has been screwing them and their country for decades? Sure, he's not conservative in the traditional sense, but we're never going to get a real conservative in the White House, or COngress, while the system is in place. If Trump were running as a Democrat I would support him, as long as he's still tearing down the political elite/academic/Hollywood system that is strangling this country. Maybe we'll get a conservative in after him, maybe not, but we sure as hell won't get one in before him.
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posted on
09/01/2015 5:42:57 PM PDT
by
fr_freak
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