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I get food stamps, and I’m not ashamed — I’m angry
Vox ^ | September 16, 2015 | Christine Gilbert

Posted on 10/05/2015 10:17:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

“Also - anyone else think she had “help” in writing this article? The writing proficiency just doesn’t match up with the life story imho.”

I THOUGHT SO TOO!


121 posted on 10/06/2015 10:31:11 AM PDT by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: sparklite2
Even with a 4 year BS degree, you can jump back in and, usually, get a maters in something useful.

Case in point, my brother's kid. Brilliant girl. Majored in chemistry of some kind. Two years in (at Duke) decided chemistry wasn't her thing and called dad up for a dinner meeting. At the meeting, she said she was changing her major to art history and proceeded to tell him all the wonderful opportunities awaiting her with an Art History degree.

She graduates. Can't find any of these wonderful jobs. Flounders for about a year. She then goes back and gets her masters in accounting or finance of some sort. Instantly gets hired by one of the Big Four (is it four now?) and out of the gate is making 6 figures or close to it. She is making well over 6 figures now AND has some sort of insanely popular blog on Tumbler that brings in another 25k a year.

122 posted on 10/06/2015 10:44:58 AM PDT by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

You hit all her nail on the head! Particularly on refocus on her.

Those types of irresponsible short-termers are often the ones that show up late day after day or take days off without Manager’s OK regardless of the work schedule.


123 posted on 10/06/2015 11:29:45 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: equaviator
It was once in vogue. Most girls would be ashamed for getting pregnant out of wedlock. Boys would be ashamed to be found in a compromising situation with another boy. A real man would be ashamed to be arressted and incarcerated. People would be ashamed to accept welfare.

It was a useful tool for societal control.

124 posted on 10/06/2015 12:39:53 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: X-spurt

I actually do think she wrote this herself. I know a lot of people who hover at the poverty level, and many are very articulate and quite passionate. They are bad at math for the most part, but this sounds like a very smart person who just hasn’t gotten her crap together.

And I’m going to go out on a limb and describe some other things that is going on in her life:

Smoking
Drinking
Tattoos
Marijuana

Now I know people will say “Hey, there is nothing wrong with X! I have/do X and I’m not on foodstamps!”

Fair enough. But of the scores of people I have met who would be in a similar situation to hers, 75%+ are smokers, 90%+ are drinkers (not alcoholics, they just like their beer/wine/tequila), 95%+ sport tattoos, and well over 50% smoke a little weed now and again.

Those habits are part of a culture, the culture of the working poor. When I pointed that out to some people who were in it, their response was “everybody smokes, drinks, has ink, and smokes a little every once in a while.”

Percentage of adult smokers in America: 17.8%
Percentage of adult drinkers in America: 67%
Percentage of adults with tattoos in America: 14%
(Ages 18 - 25: 36%, Ages 26 - 40: 40%)
Percentage of adults who smoke marijuana in the last month in America: 5.2%

The culture that says that these things as a group are “normal” is the same culture that sees it as “normal” to go through two to three jobs a year. This is a cultural problem.


125 posted on 10/06/2015 12:49:37 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Eagles6

Vogue? I can’t imagine what it would’ve looked like on a T-shirt.


126 posted on 10/06/2015 2:30:21 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

That sounds like the safest limb on earth to go out on.

We have always had folks that bare scrape by, who waste both their money and their future. Difference now is we enable them to do so with gusto and obviously too many empty calories from seeing all the toady looking tated up lard-assed young women.


127 posted on 10/06/2015 4:46:26 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Yaelle

There are scammers, but the system really does work hard to catch them. You hear about them because they get caught.

My wife and I both work for the state of Alaska. I do IT support and repair, have done it for the state since 1997. Nobody is getting rich doing these types of state jobs, but they are steady employment that provides good medical insurance. I was an executive chef before I had kids, worked my way up from a bus boy at 15 to executive chef at a restaurant I couldn’t afford to eat at by the time I was 30. I didn’t get rich doing that, but it was supremely satisfying. I have done network administration for the state for the last 18 years because I needed benefits and a job I could drop at 5pm and not think about until I was back at work so I could raise my kids.

My wife works as an eligibility technician, determining if people who come in and apply are eligible. It’s run like going to a bank and getting a loan. Everything about these people’s histories is online. There are all kinds of people denied. There are few people who come in because they just want to live on the dole. These are people trying to improve their lives and just not finding the kinds of jobs that will pay them enough. The scammers get caught just like people who try to game any system get caught. In the same way an unpaid speeding ticket in Tennessee will get your license suspended in your home state of Oklahoma, and people looking to give or deny you credit have access to the utility bills you’ve been late on, people applying for support are scrutinized. People are caught all the time and have benefits revoked and they have to pay back money they gamed. There is not as much fraud that gets by as the media would have you think.


128 posted on 10/06/2015 8:33:48 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: RginTN

There are a limited amount of pharm tech jobs. Not everyone who is trained to do something can do that something.

At the same time, reasonably smart people can figure their way out in the world, can figure out how to better themselves, move to places where jobs are, and have a successful life. There are plenty others that just aren’t smart enough, or those who have illnesses or injuries that they didn’t expect that took away their ability to earn a living wage, or people stuck where they don’t have the money to move to a place with better jobs, and a lack of employment out there. Children happen and taking care of them can limit your options. Sometimes you have to take care of an ailing parent or other family member. Not everyone gets a successful life and good education. Many people do get shit on by randomness that can come out of nowhere. Not everyone gets to be an astronaut, some people have to mop the floors.


129 posted on 10/06/2015 8:49:37 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: X-spurt

My master’s is in psychology. Since I had small kids I could never go on to get licensing since you have to collect full time hours for two straight years and I didn’t believe in leaving my kids that long. I have no regrets but now my resume goes to the bottom of the pile for ANY job because I haven’t worked in so long.


130 posted on 10/06/2015 9:51:39 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: arbitrary.squid

Not everyone gets to be an astronaut, some people have to mop the floors.


housekeeping can be a good paying job just like pharm techs.
My condo’s HOA has housekeeping come in once a week. There’s no shame in doing that kind of work.


131 posted on 10/06/2015 10:04:24 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: RginTN

Absolutely not. But there aren’t as many jobs as there are citizens.


132 posted on 10/07/2015 2:11:01 AM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: UCANSEE2
what is a "living wage"?....if she were to make a "living wage" as a fast food worker, what should people that do skilled work earn?....

these simpletons don't understand if the min. wage keeps getting hacked up, not only will they NOT be getting food stamps, but will loose out on other things as well...like free phones, rent assistance, etc and they'll loose their precious "earned income" tax thievery...

I don't mind if people that are working get food stamps..I'd rather help those that are trying than to help those that do nothing...

133 posted on 10/07/2015 9:08:39 AM PDT by cherry
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To: gspurlock

I do understand that if you work your way up say at Burger King or McDonalds, the managers can make pretty decent money....


134 posted on 10/07/2015 9:12:32 AM PDT by cherry
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea

I think the right people can do pretty well on minimum wage IF they have full time hours, which fast food places often do not....


135 posted on 10/07/2015 9:16:59 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Eagles6
she is also getting a big whopping check at tax time called EIC...probably to the tune of several thousand dollars in one whack....

there is a reason she is part time...if she worked more or full time or at higher wage, she would loose her big lotto winnings aka EIC...

some people really do fix their lives so they get that big check...I'm not kidding....

but as others pointed out, getting MARRIED and staying MARRIED is the best economic choice out there....

136 posted on 10/07/2015 9:22:25 AM PDT by cherry
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To: goldstategop

Ted Cruz stated on Hannity several weeks ago that if we cut some of the welfare for the “poor” we also have got to cut it for the elites.....I’m all in...


137 posted on 10/07/2015 9:25:11 AM PDT by cherry
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To: JudyinCanada
First things I thought....where’s the father? Was she married to him? Did she marry a loser?

Excellent questions but they're based on the increasingly wild assumption that she has any idea who the father is (fathers are) from which to collect support.

It's just much easier to go on the dole than to go to all the trouble of (1)-identifying the possible father(s), (2)-proving if he is (they are) in fact the father(s), and (3)-getting him (them) to pay support.

138 posted on 10/07/2015 9:38:35 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Then suddenly I had two kids.....

Stopped reading right there.

139 posted on 10/07/2015 9:41:54 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A living wage for whom? Five illegitimate kids? Fifteen? As many as you can pump out as fast as a passing dork can pump them in?

Fat lazy angry botch...no wonder there’s no man around.


140 posted on 10/07/2015 9:59:31 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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