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Ben Carson's Psychology Test Story Gets Even Weirder
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/11/ben-carsons-psychology-test-story-gets-even-weirder ^

Posted on 11/08/2015 4:03:54 PM PST by springwater13

More Ben Carson news today! You remember Doc Carson's story about the psychology test hoax that proved he was the most honest man at Yale? Well, Carson says it really happened, and the proof is on the right. It's a piece from the Yale Daily News about a parody issue of the News published by the Yale Record. Apparently the parody issue announced that some psychology exams had been destroyed and a retest would be held in the evening. Hilarious!

This makes the whole story even more fascinating. It's clear that Carson's account is substantially different from the parody. He says the class was Perceptions 301. He says 150 students showed up. He says everyone eventually walked out. He says the professor showed up at the beginning, and then again at the end. He says the professor gave him ten dollars. None of that seems to have happened.

And yet—it certainly seems likely that this is where Carson got the idea for his story. He remembered the hoax, and then embellished it considerably to turn it into a testimony to the power of God. This even makes sense. It seemed like a strange story for Carson to invent, and it turns out he didn't. He took a story he recalled from his Yale days and then added a bunch of bells and whistles to make it into a proper testimonial.

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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Is it the actual incident or is it alluding to some other incident?

If it is a parody, then likely the person posting for Carson (himself or maybe a staffer) did not pay enough attention to realize the article was a parody. If they had, it seems very unlikely that they would have posted it.

Since it was a parody, there are two possibilities. It was making an allusion to a real life event, likely the one Carson experienced, or it was a parody of something else or just a funny story not being a parody of anything.

The remaining hypothesis seem unlikely (based on what I know so far). If Carson made the whole thing up, would he not be surprised and suspicious that there was an article about it...and scrutinize it more closely? But instead Carson seems dismissive and careless in defending himself--not saying that is a good thing or a bad thing--but it is an odd thing to make such a mistake if one is seriously worried about being exposed as a fraud.

41 posted on 11/08/2015 7:09:23 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: springwater13

Yale says there was no class called Perceptions 301 when Carson was attending. Easy enough to research I guess.


42 posted on 11/08/2015 7:49:57 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: Karl Spooner

you nailed that phoney.


43 posted on 11/08/2015 7:50:36 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: springwater13

Mother Jones, really? What, couldn’t find anything on the Huffpost?


44 posted on 11/08/2015 8:56:52 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: absalom01

Carson, like many if not most persons striving for high office tend to embellish. Just because it seems common, does not excuse the fabrication and will likely be deadly to a POTUS campaign in the Primary stages.

Trust is essential on our side of America.

With both Carson and Trump we may be seeing a brightly glowing of the Wilder Phenomenon. Wildly enthusiastic support until the curtain is drawn on the voting booth.


45 posted on 11/09/2015 8:53:57 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: springwater13

Isn’t it nice, though, that there are actually unsealed records that these journalistic assassins can at least review to learn something about Ben? Unlike all the sealed stuff that their messiah obama engineered so that nobody could know anything about him? And the best part is that nothing uncovered so far amounts to even a rat’s fart.


46 posted on 11/09/2015 1:41:35 PM PST by DPMD
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To: X-spurt

Well, Carson’s not my guy, but I have to take issue with your implied assumption that these MSM stories are correct in casting Carson’s statements as “embellished”.

Remember, this started last week with Politico getting a “scoop” hilariously wrong, and having to walk back their claims, one step at a time over the course of a couple of days of derision. Politico looked stupid and venal, and Carson was unscathed. Consider: Politico made hay with a one-line tag in Carson’s biography that he had been “offered a full scholarship” to Westpoint. Now, based not only on the recollections of other old geezers, but in ads from the time, we know for certain that is exactly how the Army “sold” west point. He never claimed to have applied, nor to have received a formal offer, but related a story from a talk with General Westmorland when Carson was 17. I find that claim, the only one he actually made, to be credible. Many others do as well.

The group with the problem here is not the Carson campaign, but the MSM. Conservatives have long dismissed them, but it’s gotten so bad, and so blatant that even barely enaged “low information voters” have started to notice.

There’s one more problem with the “Ben Carson once returned a VHS tape that he didn’t rewind” types of stories. By ignoring Hillary’s felonies, and howling about the Republican du jour’s infractions, many otherwise non-political people are beginning to wonder if there’s a media driven agenda in play.

Carson and the other outsiders will, I think, eventually fade into the pack, but it won’t be the press that does him in.


47 posted on 11/09/2015 2:38:52 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

It did not take very long to see the BS in politico’s West Point hit piece. The only gotcha they have come up with is the possibility that Westmoreland was not in Detroit on the dates Ben claimed. If he indeed did not have dinner with the General, then it gets back to being a problem of embellishment.

What got and kept my attention is his claimed teen years violent streak. Either he was much more violent than I want in a POTUS or he told a significant fib, which I am too tired of in a POTUS.

Either way he pooped in his pants.


48 posted on 11/09/2015 4:18:44 PM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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