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How Should Police Stop A Knife-Swinging Laquan On PCP?
Misadventures in Diversity ^ | 11/25/15 | Donald Joy

Posted on 11/25/2015 11:57:19 AM PST by IChing

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To: PLMerite

“Except somebody’s apparently started to use them for target practice now. Could make it interesting.”

If you are referring to the BLM protest where 3 men were shooting at a black crowd there is a great link interviewing “youths” attending the event that admit to attacking the people and they started shooting when they were swarmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRhZL3QLtEQ

Some key quotes
“everyone started rushing them.”
“Someone punch one of them, POW”
“Then somebody hit someone again”
“So we start chasin’ them”

Language warning.


121 posted on 11/25/2015 2:17:07 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: kjam22

I was referring to legal definitions apart from this case.


122 posted on 11/25/2015 2:17:39 PM PST by IChing
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To: IChing
Abuse of a corpse?

in the coroner's report, If the shots are numbered in the order that the were fired the shots #1 & 2 would have been fatal and all others would have been irrelevant.

Article sums up the situation very well.

Too many folks that have never been involved in anything more dangerous than a pillow fight feel comfortable telling someone else how to handle a deadly force situation.

123 posted on 11/25/2015 2:17:42 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Moonman62

Based on training and policies and procedures. LEOs are very familiar with the minimum response concept. 16 rounds is a gross violation of that concept in this case.


124 posted on 11/25/2015 2:18:45 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: IChing

We agree that premeditation does not apply if the defendant can successfully demonstrate self defense. Is that what you’re looking for?


125 posted on 11/25/2015 2:19:25 PM PST by kjam22
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To: JennysCool

That’s so he won’t get convicted. It’s a bullshit overcharge that no jury will convict him of.


126 posted on 11/25/2015 2:19:37 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: kjam22

Who said anything about accidental? Justified killing can be preceded by deliberate thought, but without the element of malice.


127 posted on 11/25/2015 2:20:37 PM PST by IChing
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To: IChing

I encourage you to read the case of Jerome Ersland. A pharmacist robbed at gun point. The court has ruled that he originally shot under the terms of self defense. But subsequent shootings were not self defense and were in fact 1st degree murder. The legal definition of what constitutes self defense is a good thing for people to know. Especially to know when you are no longer acting in self defense, of yourself, or of anyone else.


128 posted on 11/25/2015 2:22:16 PM PST by kjam22
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To: Eagles6

LOL thanks


129 posted on 11/25/2015 2:22:35 PM PST by IChing
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To: IChing

There is a mind set that says.... if you’re gonna shoot someone, be sure you kill them so they can’t sue you. I would say... more than that... make darn sure there’s not a video of you pumping additional rounds into them when they are clearly no longer a threat. If you want to argue self defense in court.


130 posted on 11/25/2015 2:24:31 PM PST by kjam22
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To: kjam22

I was just clarifying that not all killing preceded by deliberate thought is murder. Malice is the critical element. Thanks.


131 posted on 11/25/2015 2:24:38 PM PST by IChing
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To: IChing

Did you write the article?


132 posted on 11/25/2015 2:27:06 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Organic Panic
Gee, I guess this is why there has been so little coverage in the msm.

4 White guys legally filming on a public street assaulted and chased because of the color of their skin.

Funny how the guys with masks on want the Crackers to take off their's.

133 posted on 11/25/2015 2:32:45 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: EEGator

Yes indeedy.


134 posted on 11/25/2015 2:34:45 PM PST by IChing
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To: dragnet2

Boy, do you bull shit much? Of course whatever evidence is obtained will be used. But the fact is, video by itself has convicted tons of people.

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So name one case where video was the only evidence at trial. You can’t, so you attack me personally.


135 posted on 11/25/2015 2:36:55 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: IChing

I figured. I might not have 30 years of LE experience, but the verbatim description on your home page and “his” Twitter account added up. I’m also watching Sherlock Holmes right now, so I’m kind of an expert myself... :)


136 posted on 11/25/2015 2:38:18 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Springfield Reformer

So I say, based on the training I received, no way was this recognized internally as a good shoot.

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Police aren’t trained the same way as CCW holders. The law that apples to them is different, too.


137 posted on 11/25/2015 2:39:00 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: dragnet2

affect=effect


138 posted on 11/25/2015 2:41:34 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: AlaskaErik

Based on training and policies and procedures. LEOs are very familiar with the minimum response concept. 16 rounds is a gross violation of that concept in this case.

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Is there a specific policy you can cite? The departmental policy of the officer in question would be good.


139 posted on 11/25/2015 2:41:35 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Organic Panic

Ah, so that’s why I haven’t been hearing anything much about it. Thanks for the link!

Still, the Left is trying to instigate a violent confrontation.


140 posted on 11/25/2015 2:57:43 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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