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The stunningly illogical attack on Ted Cruz's citizenship
American Irony ^ | 1-7-16 | The Looking Spoon

Posted on 01/07/2016 11:32:52 AM PST by The Looking Spoon

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To: Mollypitcher1

Have you ever heard of ORIGINAL INTENT???????????????

I was using the logic of ORIGINAL INTENT. You are going to get embarrassed, just like you were on Gowdy.....


21 posted on 01/07/2016 12:24:57 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: DMZFrank

I wrote this, and it is well established that I’m not a liberal.

If RINOs throwing gas on this fire isn’t an attack then I don’t know what is.


22 posted on 01/07/2016 12:25:29 PM PST by The Looking Spoon
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To: precisionshootist
The baby grows up in China and raised as a loyal communist. How could this person have any allegiance to the United States?

You ignore the residency requirements of the mother and you leave out the residency requirements for the candidate.

Next bad analogy!

23 posted on 01/07/2016 12:26:11 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Wow first I was not being cute in any way. Second your response lacks any logic or reasoned thought whatsoever.


24 posted on 01/07/2016 12:26:40 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

the logic is over your head apparently.


25 posted on 01/07/2016 12:29:19 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: The Looking Spoon

More like *hypocritical*.

Let’s see obama produce a birth certificate first.


26 posted on 01/07/2016 12:29:55 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mollypitcher1

you must be terrified of Iowa.....


27 posted on 01/07/2016 12:30:12 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: Mollypitcher1; DMZFrank

What about the Naturalization Act of 1790? That law stipulates that the child of a woman who is a citizen is a “natural born citizen” if the father was ever a resident of the country, which Cruz’s father was prior to obtaining Canadian citizenship.

The truth of the matter is “natural born citizen” was never formally defined in the constitution itself, and it seems to me that The Naturalization Law of 1790 comes as close to settling this as anything.

Also, the constitution was ratified in 1788. This law came after ratification, a point I’m only making because Mollypitcher1 keeps saying 1791 (which is when the Bill of Rights was ratified)


28 posted on 01/07/2016 12:35:01 PM PST by The Looking Spoon
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To: BfloGuy

Thanks, didn’t consider that at all in my answer.


29 posted on 01/07/2016 12:35:37 PM PST by The Looking Spoon
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To: metmom

The precise point I was trying to make was we don’t need to debate this because Cruz doesn’t play games on this like Obama and the left have.

We know his deal, and the analysis from Harvard Law Review makes a strong, if not settling, case that Cruz is a natural-born citizen.


30 posted on 01/07/2016 12:40:16 PM PST by The Looking Spoon
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To: Mollypitcher1
I don't think Cruz's father was ever a citizen of Canada. He did wait a long time before becoming a naturalized citizen of the US but until then I think he was a citizen of Cuba.

Canada gives citizenship to those born on its soil--Ted Cruz may not have been aware of having dual citizenship until someone pointed it out to him. He then relinquished his claim to Canadian citizenship.

Did Obama ever renounce his Indonesian citizenship?

31 posted on 01/07/2016 12:51:04 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Mollypitcher1
I don't think Cruz's father was ever a citizen of Canada. He did wait a long time before becoming a naturalized citizen of the US but until then I think he was a citizen of Cuba.

Canada gives citizenship to those born on its soil--Ted Cruz may not have been aware of having dual citizenship until someone pointed it out to him. He then relinquished his claim to Canadian citizenship.

Did Obama ever renounce his Indonesian citizenship?

32 posted on 01/07/2016 12:51:04 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: BfloGuy

There are no residency requirements. The child moves to the US at age 20 and runs for president at age 35.


33 posted on 01/07/2016 1:29:39 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: The Looking Spoon

We were taught a natural citizen had to be born on American Soil. I won’t touch these arguments. If Obama can be President anyone can.


34 posted on 01/07/2016 1:30:55 PM PST by IC Ken
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To: WENDLE
hillary has absolute standing

The only way Hillary will have standing is if she is the Democrat nominee, Cruz is the Republican nominee, and Cruz wins the election. At that point he will be in the White House and she can sue to her heart's content. At the end of the day there is no doubt that the courts would rule Cruz is a natural born citizen.

35 posted on 01/07/2016 1:36:15 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DMZFrank

The point is still dead on.

People no longer consider the actual meaning of the words in the Constitution. “Citizen at birth” is CLOSE ENOUGH to “Natural Born Citizen” to these uneducated boobs.

Their strongest argument was that the Constution is dead until we elect someone capable of restoring it...and Ted Cruz *might* be able to do that.


36 posted on 01/07/2016 1:49:08 PM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: The Looking Spoon
Wow.....how many morons on the right are going to sacrifice their ‘reputations’ by defending Ted Cruz's ineligibility??

natural born Citizen == illegal alien

There's a Harvard law review that explains it somewhere.

**hick**

37 posted on 01/07/2016 1:56:54 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: Radix
I see nothing more illogical in politics these days than people propagating the notion that the son of a foreign citizen could also simultaneously be a natural born citizen of the United States.

Staggers the imagination, doesn't it?
38 posted on 01/07/2016 2:24:35 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Yes seems pretty basic to me but some are going to twist themselves into a pretzel citing everything imaginable trying to explain away the obvious.


39 posted on 01/07/2016 2:35:44 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist; Electric Graffiti

Yeah, ok. The reasoning and law cited in that article was definitely pretzel logic, especially compared to your mere say so.

You can disagree with what I posted, but at least I bothered to back up my opinion.


40 posted on 01/07/2016 3:18:07 PM PST by The Looking Spoon
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