Posted on 02/05/2016 9:46:39 AM PST by amorphous
...The Russian-Turkish conflict in Syria is not going to be an easy one for either party. If Russia threatens to cripple Turkey by cutting-off the gas supplies, it will also hurt Russia's economy while Muslim Azerbaijan will gladly provide Turkey with a new gas-hookup bringing the Turkic states closer to Istanbul and further from Moscow. On the other hand, the increasing Muslim global menace is the fire necessary for Christendom's refinement, unity, and even bringing Jerusalem (which no longer trusts Turkey) closer to Cyprus.
This conflict is the new equilibrium that will create the neo-Ottoman hegemony to form the nations of Ezekiel 38. The crucial factor to be considered is that if Turkey and Russia had a full out blown war in Syria, Turkey will initially be the victor. Putin's military options are constrained. He has only limited forces in Syria and the Trans-Caucasus area bordering Turkey, while Ankara has the second-largest fleet of F-16s in the world and the second-largest army in NATO. It also has logistical and geographical advantages that include control of the Dardanelles and the Bosporus, Russia’s egress to Syria.
But even if Turkey initially wins, it will eventually be crushed by Russia, but only in the end. This is rooted in history stretching back to the Ottoman Empire. At one point or another, the Ottoman Turks ruled over or defeated all of modern Turkey's neighbors except Russia. Between the fifteenth century, when the Ottoman and Russian Empires became neighbors, and 1917, the year of the Bolshevik revolution, the two peoples fought at least seventeen long wars, all of them instigated - and won - by the Russians...
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I think he's just putting out creative fiction for his excitable fans. If you asked him to show that he really believes what he's saying by committing to a bet on each prediction, he'd probably say no.
I’m worried about what my HOA thinks of coils of barbed wire, though.
Russia has been cozying up to Azerbahjan lately, and may screw over their ally (Christian) Armenia, to help (Muslim) Azerbajan.
Who was it that said, “History doesn’t repeat, but it sure rhymes.”
Ezekiel 38
Turkey and Russia are still nominally allies. They may not be feeling so warm right now, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they will not continue to be allies.
Can you provide any proof, other than this ignorant fool’s assertions, that Turkey and Russia will be going to war?
I differ with you. Turkey and Russia are more akin to quarreling neighbors and have never ever been what I would consider allies, as far as I know of their history together.
That's a key point right there. If Turkey invades Syria and Russia then responds, NATO can argue that Turkey started things, and so the mutual self-defense clause does not apply.
Makes one wonder.
Russia is only in the area to keep Assad in power, on Iran and their behalf. Putin would be pushing his luck to get militarily involved outside of the Russosphere. And NATO would have to react strongly if Russia went to war with Turkey.
although in Ezekieln 38 Turkey seems to be part of the Russian alliance. We will see.....
Maranatha
Even so, Shoebat is a very smart person, though somewhat opinionated, as we all are to some extent. I find his views refreshing and thought provoking - he makes you think about things, since he sees things more from a Mideastern perspective.
I completely disagree with his Daughter of Babylon theories.
Here is a recent article demonstrating this:
Erdogan eyes tighter Turkey, Russia alliance (Monday, 1 December 2014)
Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were each’s biggest trading partners as well, just sayin’.
Spark WWIII?
If Russia invades turkey, Russia has my support.
New Russian cruse missiles can be launched, without going through the Straits, from the Caspian Sea; the S400 system will take out any Turkish AF in its southern half; the S300 systems shipboard in the Med will deal with any flights from the west; the Russian heavy cruiser will make short work of any Turk ships.
So Turkey will be dealing with strictly a ground invasion without any air cover - its tanks and troops will be exposed, and wiped out. Worse any degradation of the Turk Mil will leave them unable to deal with the Kurds and give the Peshmerga a freehand on the southern boarder.
Iran could step into halt the Kurds, but is currently unable to field any troops other than a few from its general staff who are dropping like flies.
Much ado about nothing ...
NATO is good at subjugating a tiny country like Serbia or bombing the starch out of the sand-savages in Libya but Russia? I don't think either group wants that, although there is bluster aplenty.
Just one minor correction to your post.
In the 1960’s there was a labor shortage in West Germany.
The West German government invited Turkish families to move to Germany to work-I am not sure they were to stay as long as they have.
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