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Everyone is underestimating Ted Cruz
Vox ^ | February 8, 2016 | Timothy B. Lee

Posted on 02/08/2016 12:23:15 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Ted Cruz won last week's Iowa caucuses, exceeding expectations and capturing an impressive 27 percent of the vote. Donald Trump took second place, while Marco Rubio took third.

What happened next?...

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To: altura

I love that part of the article. I was thinking anybody who reads that who knows the GOP has been hijacked by a bunch of establishment hacks would be thinking to themselves “Cool, this guy has all the right enemies”!


41 posted on 02/08/2016 12:40:36 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: RIghtwardHo

Yes Cruz is at the end of his 15 minutes just like Huck and Santorum. He’s not going to be a big factor going forward.


42 posted on 02/08/2016 12:40:41 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: GodGunsGuts

With Rubio floundering now, Cruz is likely back to #2 in the race. SC will be a very, very important vote. Cruz has some natural advantages there, but Rubio has spent a great deal of time and effort too. Those two and Trump are likely going to make up the ‘final two’, I thought Rubio was going to have an easy rise to #2 in the race, but less certain after the debate this weekend.


43 posted on 02/08/2016 12:41:07 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: GodGunsGuts

There are some posters here who should really take a day or two off.

They post nothing of substance but just say stuff like, Cruz is bad, Trump is great.

And they are obnoxious. But we can’t kill ‘em and we can’t get rid of ‘em. I suggest ignoring them.


44 posted on 02/08/2016 12:42:02 PM PST by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: GodGunsGuts; All
Yes.... As heard on Jeff Kuhner today, go here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3394457/posts?page=37#37
45 posted on 02/08/2016 12:42:24 PM PST by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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To: GodGunsGuts
his RCP average head to head matchup shows him losing to Hitlary and Sanders right out of the box.

That's only because he's the one who has taken the heat for bringing up the most important issues of our time. He takes the heat, but has only been priming the pump for a nomination fight. Once he has won, he'll destroy ANYONE on the left. Anyone. That's because he knows how to fight.

Remember, he started with below one per cent in the polls just before he actually announced. It was thought he would announce, and the polling showed him below one per cent. That's a lot like the RCP polls with the two democrats, just plain BS because you haven't started a real campaign between the two parties.

You might recall, the GOPe said McCain and Romney were the only candidates that could beat Hillary in 2008, and 2012 respectively. That meant nothing, it was never true.

If Cruz actually wins this thing, I'm fairly sure the MSM will train their guns on him and take him out in a few shots. Cruz has not been taking the heat from the MSM, because they think he can't win. If he does they will destroy him in short order. They can't do that with Trump. Trump will come out with all barrels blazing when it's the general, he will destroy them, not the other way around.

Sorry to pop your bubble, but that's one of the best arguments to support Trump, not Cruz.

46 posted on 02/08/2016 12:42:25 PM PST by Lakeshark
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To: JoSixChip

You mean Trump’s platform of expanding NSA surveillance powers, continuing Obama’s opening of relations with Cuba, “taking care of everybody” with government health care, keeping women in combat, maintaining the progressive income tax instead of real tax reform, not reforming social security or medicare, legalizing the “good” illegals in an “expedited” process, and being “open” to evolving his views on same-sex marriage?

Nope, it’s not conservative. And on every liberal position Trump holds, Cruz holds the opposite view.

Throw in that he has praised Canadian/British socialized medicine in the past, used to be for partial birth abortion, used to be for a wealth tax on millionaires to pay off the debt, etc.


47 posted on 02/08/2016 12:43:52 PM PST by JediJones (Marco Rubio: When the Establishment Says Jump, He Asks How High?)
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To: JoSixChip
Trump is actually the most conservative if you look at his deeds and platform.

That might be the funniest sentence ever written in the English language.

48 posted on 02/08/2016 12:44:03 PM PST by dead (Please clap.)
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To: datura

Trump’s being stingy with his money just like they say Ross Perot was. Trump refused to hire the top get-out-the-vote firm for Iowa and suffered a loss there. He can’t be trusted to put the necessary money into his general election campaign.


49 posted on 02/08/2016 12:45:34 PM PST by JediJones (Marco Rubio: When the Establishment Says Jump, He Asks How High?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I sure don’t underestimate his ambition, he wants it too bad and that’s why he’s hired political operatives who will do anything, just like they did with the false voter reports in Iowa and by screwing Ben Carson over.

Ted of course plays the innocent preacher-son who keeps apologizing for something he said no one would be disciplined for.

Because the person he’d have to fire is Jeff Roe and that would devastate his campaign. Sorry Dr. Carson, you maybe his “friend” but he’s made his choice and Ted’s ambition comes first.


50 posted on 02/08/2016 12:45:45 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

It’s been 36 years since we nominated a candidate who won NH but lost Iowa and then went on to win the presidency. And we just tried twice in a row. NH is not a good bellwether of the country. They’re much less socially conservative than most of the country.

The last time we tried nominating a candidate who won Iowa but lost NH, it was Bush and he won the presidency. Iowa is a much better indicator of electability.


51 posted on 02/08/2016 12:47:53 PM PST by JediJones (Marco Rubio: When the Establishment Says Jump, He Asks How High?)
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To: altura
Deeds? Trump has no deeds. He's a novelty.

Trump is one of the modest successful men in the history of the world. He has developments all over the world, he has provided a good life to at least tens of millions of families by providing good jobs and careers. He has given away millions of dollars to good causes. Is that what you call novelty?
52 posted on 02/08/2016 12:47:59 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - DC Values)
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To: bigbob
This is the second post of this in 8 posts

Nutcase Cruzbot's get your cash up front for reposting for Cruz

53 posted on 02/08/2016 12:48:17 PM PST by scooby321
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To: Angels27

Now you’re depressing me. I honestly think Trump’s support is declining but it started out really high.

I understand that. Trump played on our anger and frustration and did it pretty well.

It’s only after we stopped cheering a minute and looked at Trump’s true record that we kinda stepped back.

Trump has no core values. His huge claim to fame is getting rid of immigrants. But he has no real plan and he’s already said that the ‘good’ ones can come right back. We do need that cheap labor, you know.

I’m willing to put social issues on the back burner (except for abortion) because we have to stop ISIS and immigration but I wish I could trust Trump.

He’s ... I think maybe he is bi-polar which might be okay in an executive in business. I’ve known a couple of successful ones. They have so much drive when they’re high and the smart ones just lay low when they are low.

But Trump can’t exactly lay low and it’s not in his nature to do so.

He goes on silly tweet wars, like the petty little thing against a female news anchor. What was that? Is that mature or professional?


54 posted on 02/08/2016 12:48:37 PM PST by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: JediJones

>>Unlike certain other candidates, Cruz has a vocabulary above a third grade level

There is a rule in speaking or writing: don’t talk above the level of your audience. What is Trump failing to articulate with the vocabulary that he is using? Do you think that he’d be doing even better if he talked like an over-educated snob?

If you can make a point with common words, then use common words. Only a fool or a college professor thinks that its a good idea to make the audience feel stupid.

Bottom line: he’s an educated, successful, NYC billionaire who is trying to appeal to the NASCAR crowd. You figure out the best way to communicate.


55 posted on 02/08/2016 12:48:50 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: ilgipper

It’s become obvious that Rubio just isn’t that smart. He can memorize facts and speeches but he has no ability to think on his feet and be creative. He’d be a bumbling disaster as President. I’d support Trump over Rubio if it comes down to those two.


56 posted on 02/08/2016 12:49:30 PM PST by JediJones (Marco Rubio: When the Establishment Says Jump, He Asks How High?)
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To: fwdude

>>Yeah, and Donald is a saint.

But he is not claiming to be, and no one is trying to elect him Pastor-in-Chief.


57 posted on 02/08/2016 12:50:25 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: JediJones

Interesting. I hope you’re right.

I think we will be in real danger if Trump gets the nomination because he might well lose.

Or he might win. Lose, lose.


58 posted on 02/08/2016 12:50:33 PM PST by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: txnativegop

LOL

And we can’t forget all the continuing treacherous actions by the evil one in our White House.


59 posted on 02/08/2016 12:50:38 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: JediJones
Nope, it's not conservative. And on every liberal position Trump holds, Cruz holds the opposite view.

right, that is why cruz has been riding around on Trump's coattails yell "Me Too" for the last six months.
60 posted on 02/08/2016 12:51:47 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - DC Values)
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