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Yes, Talk Radio Is Different in Wisconsin
Right Wisconsin ^ | March 28, 2016 | Charlie Sykes

Posted on 03/28/2016 5:34:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Donald Trump is about to find out that Wisconsin is different. And one of the reasons is conservative talk radio.

In recent years, Wisconsin has repeatedly found itself at the epicenter of political upheavals (Scott Walker, Act 10, recall elections, Paul Ryan). In 2010, no state switched more decisively from blue to red and in this traditionally progressive state the GOP still controls the governorship, both houses of the legislature, a majority of the congressional delegation and (at least for now) a U.S. Senate seat. The heart of the conservative resurgence here is southeastern Wisconsin – which is turning out to be very unfriendly territory for the GOP front-runner.

Last week, we called on Wisconsin’s conservatives to be “a firewall of rationality in the madness that is the current GOP campaign.” Voters here are well positioned to do exactly that. They are savvy, well-informed, and deeply engaged. And they are not buying the vulgar buffoonery that Trump is selling. In the critical WOW counties around Milwaukee – Waukesha, Ozaukee, Washington – Trump is viewed positively by just 25% and negatively by 64% of GOP voters.

As The Washington Post’s Dave Weigel noted last week it was not a coincidence that Ted Cruz kicked off his campaign on talk radio in vote-rich Waukesha County:

There’s a reason for that. In a typical day here, in the suburbs of Milwaukee, Republicans can spin their radio dials and have their pick of anti-Donald Trump commentary.

I confess that I am one of them (and have the scars to show for it.) But I am only one of the hosts here who has broken with the national talkers who drank deep from the toxic cup of Trumpism. Wisconsin boasts an unusually robust talk radio infrastructure – one that includes my colleague on WTMJ, Jeff Wagner, WISN’s Mark Belling, Jay Weber, and Dan O’Donnell, as well as Green Bay’s Jerry Bader. There are no Hannity-like Trump fan boys here. Weigel quotes me accurately:

“There’s kind of a fundamental decency about Wisconsinites that you can’t downplay,” Sykes said Tuesday night, poking at a salad at an Ozaukee County supper club. “We’ve never had a huge division between the tea party and the establishment. We’ve got think tanks and radio talk shows that have been through the fire and are really intellectually driven. And you don’t get that elsewhere. I was driving here listening to Sean Hannity, and after 15 seconds, I could feel myself getting dumber.”

The Wall Street Journal’s Reid Epstein also noticed the dynamic here:

For Mr. Trump, Wisconsin’s population distribution poses a particular disadvantage. He is highly unpopular in the Milwaukee area, where local conservative talk-radio hosts have been lamenting his rise for months….

In southeast Wisconsin, the local conservative talk-radio hosts have not followed the lead of the national guys,” said Charlie Sykes, who regularly criticizes Mr. Trump on his morning radio show in Milwaukee and is hosting Mr. Cruz at the Wednesday forum in Waukesha. “Trump has not had the talk-radio air cover here that he’s had elsewhere.

But Trump’s unpopularity here is not simply a result of what we have said about him on the air. There is also a very different political culture here. Dan Balz notes that Wisconsin’s Paul Ryan represents “something far different” than Trumpism, a “politics grounded in ideas and policies and an attitude of goodwill.”

So it’s worth noting that Wisconsin GOP voters are Paul Ryan’s – and Scott Walker’s -- voters. Not Trump’s.

Ryan’s approach reflects the distinctive sort of conservatism that has flourished here: principled, pragmatic, substantive, reformist, but not afraid of taking on tough, controversial issues. While the GOP in Washington D.C. has been frustrated and blocked, the record here in Wisconsin has been dramatically different. Not only do conservative now dominant all three branches of government here – they have used that dominance to enact an impressive array of reforms and initiatives from Act 10, Right to Work, and prevailing wage reform, to tax cuts, tort reform, and the expansion of school choice. (Voters will also remember how Trump lied about the success of the conservative reforms here.)

In other words, conservatives in Wisconsin take ideas seriously, which may explain the relatively wide embrace of #Nevertrump here. All of this helps Cruz in a state that few saw as being particularly hospitable to the Texas senator. Politico’s Katie Glueck wrote:

Cruz’s strongest asset, however, may be the strong “Never Trump” movement that began earlier and more aggressively in Wisconsin than did the national efforts to halt the GOP frontrunner's march to the nomination. It is led by prominent local conservative radio hosts like Charlie Sykes, and also embraced by Assembly Majority Leader Jim Steineke, both of whom are now backing Cruz.

The battle for Wisconsin’s GOP delegates may be decided in the Green Bay media market, but there’s no question where voters in the southeast are trending.

“The heart of the Republican vote in Wisconsin is in suburban Milwaukee, and that area in particular has been hostile to Trump,” said Mark Graul, a longtime Wisconsin-based GOP strategist unaligned this cycle.

“A leading factor is that conservative media, particularly talk radio, has been very anti-Trump from the start, and that those voices have gone from being anti-Trump to being pro-Cruz, as the election now comes to Wisconsin, that will be very beneficial to Sen. Cruz in areas where probably 40 percent of the Republican vote comes from in two weeks,” a reference to suburban counties around Milwaukee.

If the Trump Train derails, it may start right here.


TOPICS: Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: cruz; demagogicparty; memebuilding; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; talkradio; tedcruz; trump; wi2016; wisconsin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, sure. Local talk show hosts rule the world.


21 posted on 03/28/2016 6:38:48 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Belling is the only true conservative worth listening to out of the whole listed bunch.


22 posted on 03/28/2016 6:39:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Then you better look up wisconsins history including Bob lafallotte and all the rest of the elected officiala


23 posted on 03/28/2016 6:40:07 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: BenLurkin

Ignore him... He is as biased as one can get.

All last year he said he “sent serious money to Cruz.”

As far as Wisconsin goes, it will very likely go to Cruz...Why? This is what I posted on another thread:

Uh Walker will endorse Cruz because CRUZ SOLICITED CAMPAIGN MONEY DONATIONS FOR WALKER TO PAY OFF WALKER’S CAMPAIGN DEBT...No big surprise there...It is a quid pro quo...more Status Quo from GOPe.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/ted-cruz-solicits-donations-to-pay-off-scott-walkers-campaign-debt-b99633949z1-361819941.html

Besides, Walker is Governor of Wisco...The GOPe apparatus is strongest in Wisconsin with Reince Priebus and Paul Ryan located there.

...He will of course endorse Cruz. End of story...actually no story here. He is Just trying to be a media whore.


Wisconsin loves GOPe, they will go with who Preibus, Ryan and Walker want, and that will not be Trump.


24 posted on 03/28/2016 6:49:34 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Election is about Liberty versus Tyranny and National Sovereignty versus Globalism!!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I call him The Giggler. A grown man does not carry on that way. Back when I listened to Rush, and this Fool would sub OFF went the radio. Lol.


25 posted on 03/28/2016 7:22:49 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

I want a picture of him with his unit in Iraq...or Afghanistan, whichever he served in.


26 posted on 03/28/2016 7:26:23 PM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

What a Pudgebutt.

Why should any radio host be a “Kingmaker”????


27 posted on 03/28/2016 7:28:06 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Election is about Liberty versus Tyranny and National Sovereignty versus Globalism!!)
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To: dynoman

International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers?


28 posted on 03/28/2016 7:39:26 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If conservative radio ruled the day then we would never have another Presidency, House or Senate (state or Federal) controlled by a Democrat.


29 posted on 03/28/2016 7:45:58 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong

Yes.


30 posted on 03/28/2016 7:49:03 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Syke's article is ironic. It actually highlights how Republicans in power aren't controlling the narrative and pushing the conservative agenda.

Walker has done the obligatory Republican things: Concealed-carry, cut taxes, reduced some bureaucracies and regulations, etc.

But what did Walker do when SCOTUS overruled WI's constitutional amendment upholding marriage? He folded like a suit from Goodwill. He could have pulled a Yeltsin and stood up to the Feds, but didn't.

Look what Deal just did in GA. Folded over religious liberty. Look what Snyder did in MI, folded and took the blame for the Flint water crisis. Kasich in OH over expanding Obamacare. Haley in SC over the Confederate flag. The IL Governor folding over the budget deficit.

That's what Sykes is missing. He is missing the full-throated leadership that Trump is bringing to the plate and the supporters who are following him in droves. Sykes is judging Trump in the pretext and prism of general, check-list establishment Republicanism. These Republicans hold the Governorships, the legislatures, and the state Supremes; yet they are not doing jack crap with their power. There's still no pushback on the leftist agenda. None of these Governors are telling Michelle Obama to pound sand on her school lunch program, or on OSHA or the EPA regulations, for example.

31 posted on 03/28/2016 8:00:13 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Rafael Cruz: Canadian-born, Cuban ancestry, ineligible for POTUS)
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To: dynoman
Hey dyno,
Not sure if you realize this, but you are using a puke liberal group's ad. The alleged criminal actions were cited in 2 unlawful John Doe probes led by the liberal Milwaukee DA. Both probes have been struck down repeatedly as unconstitutional invasions of privacy and the first amendment by both state and federal courts.

The major intent of both multiple year investigations was to create and charge Gov. Scott Walker with crimes. The secondary intent was to silence independent conservative groups from participating in the public arena.

Are you Trumpers now trying to silence conservatives in Wisconsin, too?

32 posted on 03/28/2016 8:03:36 PM PDT by Sideshow Bob (#nevertrump)
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To: Sideshow Bob

33 posted on 03/28/2016 8:07:24 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: GilGil
So why is Walker polling in the mid 30’s right now?

Because Wisconsin voters are a special kind of stupid.

34 posted on 03/28/2016 8:07:30 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Sideshow Bob
you are using a puke liberal group's ad

Sort of like Trump's quoting a puke liberal group when attacking Walker's budget with lies.

I guess it runs in the family.

35 posted on 03/28/2016 8:17:26 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
That's what Sykes is missing. He is missing the full-throated leadership that Trump is bringing to the plate and the supporters who are following him in droves.

Nice try. Except that Trump is on record saying that he would not challenge the latest rulings on religious liberty or the pro-LGBT agenda. You can't fault Wisconsin talk show hosts or even Speaker Ryan on those issues and say you are following Trump's leadership when the Donald is even further to the left.

In fact, Trump is pro- gay marriage and pro- Planned Parenthood and more anti- gun rights. I will agree that Trump is more full-throated, but leadership -- not so much.

36 posted on 03/28/2016 8:20:47 PM PDT by Sideshow Bob (#nevertrump)
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To: dynoman
Gee, what a witty retort. You read my points of discussion and formulated such a thoughtful and meaningful counter argument.

No wonder that us NECA boys walk all over you at contract talks.

37 posted on 03/28/2016 8:24:36 PM PDT by Sideshow Bob (#nevertrump)
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To: Sideshow Bob

38 posted on 03/28/2016 8:55:11 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Your mother must be so proud.


39 posted on 03/28/2016 9:11:19 PM PDT by Sideshow Bob (#nevertrump)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I live in Phoenix and the local AM talk radio station is KFYI and it has been 24x7 anti trump for nearly 5 months. The morning host Mike Broomhead has gone over the edge anti-Trump. Broomhead is a big fans of Sen. McLame so he is totally establishment. If Trump wins KFYI is going to be forced to let him go because his head will pop like a rotten pumpkin getting ripped apart by an M-80 firecracker.


40 posted on 03/28/2016 9:22:35 PM PDT by WMarshal (Trump 2016 (and 2020)!)
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