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Rush Limbaugh Has Completely Lost His Way
http://www.redstate.com/ ^ | April 16th, 2016 | leon_h_wolf

Posted on 04/18/2016 5:43:28 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal

Probably no one has earned more leeway from conservative voters and pundits than Rush Limbaugh. Rush has been a tireless force for the conservative movement for decades, and he probably is responsible for a whole lot of conservative Republicans who are currently in office. But thankfulness for past service only goes so far, and Rush’s program yesterday officially crossed the line.

When I think about Rush’s last year or so on air, I’m reminded of Marshall Phillipe Petain, one of the most intriguing figures of the twentieth century. Without Petain, the French might not have prevailed over the Germans at Verdun, and thus might have lost World War I. But for as much thanks as France owed Petain for his service in World War I, the full historical reckoning for Petain must acknowledge that Petain was a Nazi collaborator, the leader of Vichy France, and a totalitarian dictator. Petain’s history is complicated, and to tell the whole tale honestly requires acknowledging both the good and the bad.

So it is with Rush. For all he has done, and for all we should be thankful for, it is hard to deny that Donald Trump has brought conservatism to a critical moment. From this moment forward, it will either resemble the vision Rush has preached for thirty years, or it will not. It will either move forward as a recognizable force, or it will be destroyed with Trump in a historic landslide election.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: amnesty; conservatives; cruz; cruzers; leonwolf; limbaugh; redstate; rush; talkradio; tds; tedstate; trump; waambulance
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To: SPRINK
trump is not the future of conservatism....if he is ...I quit....trump is trump...trump is for trump

Little more than lib/Cruz talking points.

Anyone who has seriously listened to Trump cannot believe this. But, hey, Trump will make it without your vote. Actually I can see about 15% of the Cruzers who will dig their feet in, or threaten to take their ball and go home. Trump will bring enough Indies and Dems to more than offset.

261 posted on 04/18/2016 10:39:35 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier ("It's always good to be underestimated." ~Donald Trump)
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To: SPRINK
Trump is a charismatic populist.

I don't agree. Trump just learned to spout a few populist talking points to get attention. He is a Reality TV guy. He can't even coherently express his talking points.

262 posted on 04/18/2016 10:39:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway; wardaddy

That point’s not in question.

Your claim that Corey and Reince are “good friends” is where the bull**** seems to be piled, similar to your “Levin is for Trump” lunacy.

There’s not even a picture showing that the two have ever met.


263 posted on 04/18/2016 10:40:14 PM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: kjam22

Rush’s delima is that he has been a conservative his entire career. Now half of his audience worships Trumpy, who is not conservative in any way.


Gee guess you missed this epic thread...Started by JR regarding Trump being a conservative....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3421722/posts

I was told yesterday that Trump is a liberal Democrat.

My reply:

Build the wall.
Enforce the law.
Deport them all.
End sanctuary cities.
End anchor babies.
Slap a moratorium on muslim immigration.
Cut the taxes.
Cut the spending.
Cut the regulations.
Cut the government.
Cut the debt.
Cut the EPA.
Repeal ObamaCare.
Get the feds out and allow health insurance to be sold over state lines.
Send education back to states.
Get a handle on trade.
Make trade deals in our own best interests.
Bring back capital.
Bring back manufacturing.
Bring back jobs.
Strengthen the economy.
Defend the second amendment.
Defend religious freedom.
Appoint constitutional conservative judges.
Rebuild our military.
Bomb the shit out of ISIS (and take their oil).

End political correctness.
Take the GOP head-on.
Take the media head-on.
Take the liberals head-on.
And win, baby, win.

All of the above on a shoestring budget compared to most of the 16 competitors he’s defeated (after they spent 100’s of millions of donor bucks).

No PACs.
No big donors.
No party support.

What’s democrat about any of the above?
What’s not conservative?
What’s not to like?

And I’ll add a few more:

Redo the horrid Iran deal.
Take a serious look at NATO.
Require our allies to pay more for their defense.

Rebuild the Reagan Coalition and attract blue collar workers by making America first again on manufacturing, trade, secure borders, economy and jobs, jobs, jobs!

Make America Great Again!


264 posted on 04/18/2016 10:43:00 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Election is about Liberty versus Tyranny and National Sovereignty versus Globalism!!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm; Dr. Sivana
OK, I red the link to Trump's health care plan. It is a BIG subject impossible to fully cover in one readable position paper.

If Bob Moffett, health care policy expert at Heritage, would approve this package as I believe he would, it would have to be a good start in my mind. I see little obvious to disagree with other than hammering doctors and hospitals yet again.

One great thing is that the paper suggests that Trump intends to go mano a mano against Big Pharma, one of the most corrupt special interests in a jungle of them and allow foreign competition to cut Big Pharma down to size. Maybe reduce the time before drugs go generic would be an improvement. He should also say he will refuse to stand still for the corrupt blunder of Bush the Younger in refusing to negotiate prices for Part D prescriptions.

I use clopadogril for about $3 a month. Before it went generic, the original drug Plavix cost $375 a month? This drug is necessary to avoid blood clots. What would it cost Medicare if I am hospitalized for blood clot surgery? BIG amounts of taxpayer $$$$$ can be saved by speeding the transition to generic status. Billy Tauzin can go straight to Hades.

I inject insulin and the price is a national disgrace. This is not some recent innovative drug. It is artificial, extremely widely used. Uninsured price is at leastt $450 for a 40-day supply and soaring rapidly. With Medicare Part D AND supplemental insurance, it is still a burdensome $47 for a 40-day supply. Diabetic complications for untreated diabetes include heart attacks, stroke, organ failures and many other extremely expensive hospitalizations and nursing home rehabilitation. Cut the damn drug price to a reasonable level by negotiation or subsidy and save mountains of taxpayer money and a lot of unnecessary misery. The medical condition that does not occur does not have to be paid for by anyone.

Finally, I have known Dr. Sivana for decades. He verrry occasionally errs but never intentionally. He is reasonable and gentlemanly in argument and scrupulous to a fault. He does not post "drivel." Nor does he post intentional misrepresentations.

265 posted on 04/18/2016 10:43:29 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: nickcarraway; wardaddy

Nope. That’s what businessmen do in Democrat controlled cities. You’re not very bright when it comes to knowing how the world works in the trenches.

Bechtel had to sweeten a bid for the Port of New Orleans because when there wasn’t money to steal their bids kept getting turned down. Trump played the same game in a more direct method.


266 posted on 04/18/2016 10:45:03 PM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: Pelham; wardaddy
Your claim that Corey and Reince are “good friends” is where the bull**** seems to be piled

It was on here before. I spent too much time running down threads for Trump supporters, and then they completely ignore it anyway. No facts matter.

“Levin is for Trump” lunacy.

So you deny it? Wardaddy- you said you listen to Levin. For many months, most of last year, wasn't Levin rabidly pro-Trump? I remember Freeper post about it, I remember hearing it myself, and I had friends who are Levin listeners who were pro-Trump because of him.

267 posted on 04/18/2016 10:46:15 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: wardaddy

” a Cruzlim turned Trumpecostal”

lol. Is that your own creation?


268 posted on 04/18/2016 10:48:04 PM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: miss marmelstein

You criticized me pretty harshly for saying any Trump supporters ever criticized Limbaugh. What say you to this?


269 posted on 04/18/2016 10:49:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Pelham
That’s what businessmen do in Democrat controlled cities. You’re not very bright when it comes to knowing how the world works in the trenches.

That's not the kind of country I want to live in. I do not believe this type of corruption should be tolerated. Clearly, Donald Trump does not share that view. He is part of the problem.

270 posted on 04/18/2016 10:51:51 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Sec. 4)
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To: Pelham
That’s what businessmen do in Democrat controlled cities. You’re not very bright when it comes to knowing how the world works in the trenches.

Except Hillary was a Senator in D.C., so she had nothing to New York City.

But this is just a convenient excuse for bending the rules for Trump. Did you have the same excuse for Romney because he was in Boston. Please show me one post you made in the past saying Romney had to do it because he was in Boston.

271 posted on 04/18/2016 10:54:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Also, I have heard Trump say that he will spend as necessary on medical care for those who need it and cannot afford it. No problem with that on my part. I depend on Medicare and insurance and may be driven by drug costs and insurance premiums and limited income and medical necessity to apply for Medicaid. Trump's promise to sustain medical care for those of us who cannot afford it is an attractive part of Trump's campaign.

AND as you may know, I am no Trump fan overall. Truth, however, is truth. No one is suggesting with anything resembling adequate Congressional support doing away with or even seriously cutting Medicare and Medicaid in terms of services rendered. Not if they value their political necks.

272 posted on 04/18/2016 10:57:30 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: nickcarraway; wardaddy

You made the claim.

Now when you can’t back it up you whine that you shouldn’t be asked to produce your evidence. Imagine my surprise.

Google doesn’t bring up even one picture of them together.

I used to listen to Levin daily until his nickcarraway ranting got repetitious and boring. I never once heard Levin say that he was for Trump.

Cruzlim fanatics are conflating the period when he wasn’t overtly attacking Trump with “support”. Zealotry is like that. It makes people stupid.


273 posted on 04/18/2016 10:57:53 PM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: nickcarraway; wardaddy

“Except Hillary was a Senator in D.C., so she had nothing to New York City. “

As I already said, you’re not very bright when it comes to knowing how the world works.


274 posted on 04/18/2016 10:59:36 PM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: wardaddy

If a person eliminates that word from their vocabulary, then incidents like this will never happen. It reminds me of the Robert Byrd interview where he used the n-word. It indicated that the word was part of his every day vocabulary. And the same can be said for Ingraham.


275 posted on 04/18/2016 11:00:04 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Sec. 4)
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To: Hoodat

Yeah, well that’s the world we live in. Been that way since we got kicked out of Eden.

To defeat Nazi Germany we became best buds with Joe Stalin to cite one small example. You work with the world as it is not the one you wish you had.


276 posted on 04/18/2016 11:04:40 PM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: freespirit2012; kjam22; Dr. Sivana

All points in Trump’s favor BUT Cruz is more conservative and Scott Walker is far more conservative. Right to Work, photo ID to vote, defund the labor unions and their PACs, break the university tenure racket, cause half of public school unionized teachers to quit the unions, prove again and again at every occasion the willingness to FIGHT and to utterly vanquish the Demonrat left whenever it raises its ugly head, destroying the the leftist opposition in once “progressive” Wisconsin. Not that any of them would not be superior to Comrade Grandma or Comrade Grandpa.


277 posted on 04/18/2016 11:09:09 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Trump's very first point was that no one should be mandated to buy health insurance. What am I missing?

If health insurance is not mandated, neither will birth control or abortion or "transgender" surgeries or sterilizations or whatever other nightmares the SCOTUS or other social revolutionaries may cook up.

278 posted on 04/18/2016 11:16:08 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
PRS:

If you can't discern the difference (massive) between Obozo and Cruz, you are in no position to accuse anyone else of misrepresenting your plaster god.

279 posted on 04/18/2016 11:21:29 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Pelham
You aren't very bright when it comes to how the world works. You think a liberal Democrat who can't even convincingly lie about being a conservative is going to help you. Let me know how that Hope & Change works out for you.

You didn't learn anything from supporting Romney. You went back for more punishment.

280 posted on 04/18/2016 11:32:24 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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