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It is also possible that she did not pull the trigger back all the way the first time.
1 posted on 08/04/2016 8:00:03 AM PDT by marktwain
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Nice little tools. I prefer the Bersa 32 acp Thunder.


2 posted on 08/04/2016 8:06:57 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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I have one. I love it even though I’m 6’2” and weigh on the plus side of 220 lbs.

It’s a great pocket gun (can’t even see it in my pocket), you can load the chamber for a no rack setup (it is a true double action)and works great if you don’t over lubricate it.

It depends on pure blow back momentum to eject the spent case (no extractor because of the tip-up). Over lube the breech and the case can stick. It is truly a great little piece. I have its 22 cal Model 25 brother.

A fine, all STEEL gun and it works reliably. Only problem is that is pricey as are most Berettas.


3 posted on 08/04/2016 8:13:02 AM PDT by Gaffer (Paint your face, gird yourself and stand with your backsides to the enemy.)
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Very clever design with the tip up barrel. Being it is just blowback with no delay as in the 1911 which keeps the barrel and slide together for a fraction of a second, it needs a stronger spring to hold the gasses in the action until pressure drops enough for safety. This requires a much stronger spring and a harder job of racking the slide. The tip up barrel eliminates that requirement.

My sons .380 Ruger LCP is probably lighter than this tomcat and with a more powerful round. I may retire my .380 Mustang for this little Ruger. Half the weight and nice for summer carry.


4 posted on 08/04/2016 8:16:31 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Looks like she got lucky.


5 posted on 08/04/2016 8:17:16 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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KY gun laws are VERY baised toward self protection.

There was a recent case where a well known hot dog vendor (Downtown Louisville) killed a man in a road rage incident. He was the one that followed the other guy and verbally confronted him, but when the other guy came at his car with a baseball bat and struck the car, the hot dog vendor “feared for his physical health (not just life)” and pulled his legal CC gun and shot the man dead.

It went to court. He was vindicated.

In KY, you don’t even need to fear for your life, only that you may be seriously harmed. And the first one to threaten by or use any kind of force is the one in the wrong.

For this woman, the case is open and shut. It’s pure self defense.

I also carry now. It’s in my door panel. Easy reach. It’s even legal WITHOUT CC in KY, though I have CC.


6 posted on 08/04/2016 8:19:51 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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I have considered the Beretta 21 Bobcat in .22 LR for a backup guns backup. Very easy to carry and easier to conceal. You can never have too many guns. It also seems to me high powered 22LR would have better penetration than 32 ACP.

I am all for shoot as much gun as you can control and regularly carry 45ACP and 40CAL, but there is always room for options, the more the better.

7 posted on 08/04/2016 8:23:45 AM PDT by Envisioning (Before we get started, does anyone want to get out?)
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At contact range, shove the pistol into the eye if possible. Bone behind the eye socket is very thin, usually no need to shoot more rounds.


14 posted on 08/04/2016 2:18:07 PM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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The tip-up barrel is a good idea. You can easily load a cartridge with the hammer down and then carry it safely. When done, it is easy to remove the cartridge, again with the hammer down. BTW, it took a LOT of firing to smooth it up enough so that it is totally reliable. It works great now.

I also have a Kel-Tec 32ACP. It is smaller, lighter, and cheaper. However, the only way to chamber a cartridge is to jack the slide. When that is done, the shrouded hammer is half cocked and cannot be let down. I am concerned that that is unsafe.

I also have a few other .32ACP’s (Walther pre-war PPK, wartime Mauser HSc, Browning 1910, etc). They also have pros and cons, but they are too large for true concealed carry. Nice to shoot, though.


16 posted on 08/04/2016 4:06:20 PM PDT by jim_trent
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Another nonviolent drug offender.


18 posted on 08/04/2016 9:14:38 PM PDT by Noamie
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