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How We Killed the Tea Party
Politico Magazine ^ | Paul H. Jossey

Posted on 08/14/2016 6:44:48 AM PDT by fluorescence

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41 posted on 08/14/2016 9:50:50 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: fluorescence

Something neither the establishment, the media, and many people never realized was that there never was a hierarchical Tea Party organization. It was the reason it was such a success.

Hierarchical organizations, government, political, business, ngo, etc. *cannot* interface with non-hierarchical groups.

Thus they cannot control, subvert, corrupt, threaten or even influence them. They cannot wheel and deal with its leaders, because it has none. They cannot even *describe* it.

So what happened to the Tea Party? It is still there, but it is invisible. If Mr. Trump can carry out a purge of the RINOs, corporatists, GOP-e, and other Republican liberals and internationalists from the Republican party, it will be the ultimate Tea Party victory.

Likewise, if Mr. Trump and slash the size, power, and expense of government, it will be a huge Tea Party victory.


42 posted on 08/14/2016 9:51:45 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: smokingfrog

The Tea Party, to me, is about what we believe in, and what we’re willing to do for conservatism. That was organization enough. Phooey on the hacksters.


43 posted on 08/14/2016 9:52:51 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Tzimisce

This article should be read by everybody who ever went to a Tea Party event or otherwise aligned with what was the Tea Party Movement.

The author explains how that movement was exploited by con men.


44 posted on 08/14/2016 10:11:48 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: AuntB

“Well, sorry, but Politico got this one right.”

You’re right. This article comports perfectly with my experience. Though it focuses on the Tea Party, there are PACs on both left and right that exist primarily for their organizer’s benefit.

My political interests are not stereotypically conservative. Because of that, and the fact that my deceased father supported Democrats and used my address in his final years, I’m on all sorts of mailing lists and telephone lists. However, I’m old enough to be very cynical about politics, so I don’t easily fall for phonies. And, in my estimation, the two groups that are most exploited by phonies are Tea Party supporters and those who are concerned about veterans.


45 posted on 08/14/2016 10:29:25 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Skepolitic

It was written by some lib.

Just consider the source before taking it too seriously.


46 posted on 08/14/2016 10:52:47 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: discostu

“The Tea Party won. And now they hate their biggest electoral victory.”

The Tea Party made some good inroads into state legislatures. Nothing close to a majority anywhere as far as I know. But they had enough victories that they actually influenced some policy in some states.

The Tea Party elected some folks to Congress. Maybe 50-75 out of 425 could be fairly considered Tea Partiers who vote that way when it matters. They did have some influence on some votes. Enough to drive the ruling class batty. But again, never close to a majority.

The Tea Party has never even sniffed influence in a Presidential election.

I would like the Tea Party influence to be much greater. But in my opinion, “winning” means being able to dictate policy most of the time. By that measure, progressives are the winners—they have dictated policy nationally since the 1930’s. The Tea Party has had growing influence for eight years; but that growth ended this year. In fact, I think a a significant number of good Tea Party legislators are going to lose office this year. Personalities prevail over policy this year. And that will be a big loss for America.

We’ll see how things sort themselves out. My prayer is for a Trump victory that does not bring a wave of Tea Party losses in the legislatures and that he and his advisors take a wrecking ball to D.C. That would be a victory for America, not just the Tea Party.


47 posted on 08/14/2016 11:36:59 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: fluorescence

I suggest reviewing CNBC’s Rick Santelli’s rants from the floor of the Chicago Board of Trade, since it was he that coined the term Tea Party in the current context. He ranted about bank bailouts, the moral hazard of paying people out of their defaulted mortgages, and Bernanke and the Federal Reserve among other things. Nothing has changed except it is all now much worse.

-—Santelli concluded by reading a quotation from Thomas Jefferson, “I have no fear that the result of our experiment will be that men may be trusted to govern themselves without a master. I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country. I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”-— See http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/19/santelli-remembers-famous-tea-party-rant-6-years-later/


48 posted on 08/14/2016 11:50:58 AM PDT by BDParrish (O God, please bless America!)
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To: fluorescence

We hang on by a thread in Buffalo.
The national groups sucked all the money and the oxygen out of the room.
I/we will keep fighting.


49 posted on 08/14/2016 5:24:48 PM PDT by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: who knows what evil?
>>Captain Uniparty...could his true identity be...MITT ROMNEY???

Dennis Mitt: I told you, we're an anarcho-syndicalist commune Oligarchic Kleptocracy.  We take it in turns to be a sort of executive officer for the week.


50 posted on 08/15/2016 9:50:52 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat

Much truth in these observations but at the end of the day the Tea Party Membership carries the can for two reasons:
* their visceral hatred of and intolerance for Trump and
* their gross inability to discern competence in most of their candidates; some of whom belonged to Zombie Apocalypse.


51 posted on 08/15/2016 10:01:48 AM PDT by Arrian ('Girls)
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To: Arrian
 

>>* their gross inability to discern competence in most of their candidates;

"EDUCATE THE COMMON PEOPLE"
--Thomas Jefferson

Discernment? Evidently that requires diligent effort - as opposed to just regurgitaing whatever fashionable droppings the emergent parrots dejour happen to be decorating the linings of their cages with (ala direct deposit "evangelism"). 


"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;
 
...
 
 that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. "
 
"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"
--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
 

52 posted on 08/15/2016 10:34:45 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat

Virginia gave us the likes of Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, John Randolph; among others. Today we get the likes of............!
Good post that ought to be internalized by those who promote candidates.


53 posted on 08/15/2016 12:47:45 PM PDT by Arrian ('Girls)
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To: Arrian

>> that ought to be internalized by those who promote candidates.

Each one teach one, FRiends ;-)


54 posted on 08/15/2016 3:57:12 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Gaffer
I am a Tea Partier; the biggest problem I see in our movement is our inability to organize ourselves in a coherent, national manner, without being infiltrated by the scammers and professional political whores that are in it for the dollars.
None of us are ever going to agree on any one person or political position; there is no such thing as the perfect candidate, nor the perfect solution.
The one thing I think we can all agree on is getting an overbearing, bloated, corrupt bureaucracy out of our lives and wallets.
We all believe in a smaller, less intrusive government that abides by the Constitution of the United states.
There must be some way in this information age to communicate amongst ourselves on a national level.
To make contributions to the cause on a national level, those contributions to be held in some type of fund or trust and only to be disbursed on a majority or two thirds vote of the contributors to that trust (no contribution, no vote).
Keep the PACS out, keep the PARTIES out, keep the corrupt politicians out.
So far to me, Free Republic seems to me to be the base of that national system.
Do we always agree on a particular candidate (oh hell no), do we have enough real people (and smart) to do the vetting of candidates, I think so.
Could we get more like minded conservative people hooked up with a site like Free Republic; I think so, I recommend this site to a select few of the people I know.
Don't know if any of them have joined because we don't normally give out that type of info in our bull sessions, but I hope they have.
Most Tea Party people I know are conservative; some more, some less, but they are all pissed off at a government that tramples their Constitutional Rights.
Could this be done; I think so.
Unfortunately compared to most of you folks here, I am a Luddite, I wouldn't even know where to start.
55 posted on 08/21/2016 5:24:22 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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