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AK: Hiker Stops Charging Brown Bear at 6 Feet with 10mm Pistol
Gun Watch ^ | 6 August, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/18/2016 5:05:44 AM PDT by marktwain


The 10mm is becoming increasingly popular as a wilderness defense gun in Alaska.  Fully loaded it is as light, and a bit more powerful than a loaded, small frame .357 magnum.

The Glock 20 holds 15 rounds versus five or six for a .44 or .41 magnum revolver.  In this case near Homer, Alaska, on the Kenai peninsula, it did the job in stopping a charging brown bear sow. It happened on 29 July, 2016, a Monday afternoon about 4 p.m.  From homernews.com:

A Homer man shot and killed a charging sow brown bear at Humpy Creek last Friday. Kim Woodman, 57, shot the bear five times with a 10mm handgun before the bear fell about 6 feet from him. While backing away from the sow, Woodman fell and accidentally shot himself in the left foot. 
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Blackwell said Woodman surprised a brown bear with two cubs while hiking about 4 p.m. July 29 off the trail along the southwest fork of Humpy Creek in Kachemak Bay State Park. The bears were probably feeding on pink salmon in the creek. Woodman filled out a defense of life and property report, and Park Ranger Jason Okuly and Alaska Department of Fish and Game biologist Jason Herreman went to the scene and found the dead sow bear. They reported the sow had two gunshot wounds, one below the right eye and one in the chest.
Woodman had another defensive bear shooting 24 years ago, in 1992. In that case he was hunting moose. In 1992 he fired his rifle at close range when the bear was stalking him.

Falling down while backing away from the danger you are shooting at is a significant problem.  Backing away from an attacking animal or person is natural and can be effective.  But without eyes in the back of your head, falling down is a serious danger.

It is possible the bullet that struck his foot stopped the bear.  We may never know for certain.  Woodman is shunning publicity.  Maybe we will see an official report after it is published.  The superintendent of State Parks for the area said "it was fairly close".   The investigating officers confirmed the six foot distance.

The recent video of the well trained Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Deputy shooting his armed adversary shows him backing away while doing so.

To clarify, consider this.  You are backing away as an 800 lb bear is charging you at close range.  You are firing your 10mm handgun.  You trip, but you stay focused on the threat, firing as you go down.  As you press the trigger, you foot flies up into the line of fire as your back goes down to the ground.  The bear is 10 feet away.  It is easy for me to see how it could happen. It is not uncommon for people involved in self defense situations to inadvertently wound themselves or others.   The action is often fast and chaotic.


©2016 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.  Link to Gun Watch


TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: 10mm; banglist; bear; selfdefense; wildlife
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To: BlueStateRightist

It was a brown bear - if was a black bear - you would never hear the end of it from #BBM (black bears matter)


21 posted on 08/18/2016 5:38:16 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: rjsimmon

Hey, bear....what’s bruin?


22 posted on 08/18/2016 5:39:11 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: IncPen

ping


23 posted on 08/18/2016 5:39:20 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: rjsimmon
Hiker Stops Charging Brown Bear...

The jokes write themselves...

-How much did he charge the bear?

-He never should have charged the bear in the first place...

-Once the bear is done being charged, how long does it run?

None of the above. The bear was online at Amazon.com with the hunter's stolen MasterCard credit card, and when the hunter saw what was going on, he disconnected the bear's internet.

He stopped the bear from charging.

24 posted on 08/18/2016 5:42:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Every word the "News Media" prints these days are a lie, including "and" and "the".)
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To: Mercat
What happened to the babies?

Hopefully there is the proper paperwork to take them home and grill them!

25 posted on 08/18/2016 5:43:43 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: Yo-Yo

Uhhhhh...

large bore handguns?
Sounds right to me.


26 posted on 08/18/2016 5:44:42 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: elcid1970

Because, as we all know, brown-bear scat can be identified by small-bells and the odor of pepper-spray.
:-)


27 posted on 08/18/2016 5:44:42 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Lazamataz

My dad was a Right-of-Way agent and one of his agents came back and told him that when he was surveying a field, a bull charged him.

My dad replied: “How much?”


28 posted on 08/18/2016 5:45:41 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: marktwain
I have interviewed Kim Woodman. A followup article with details on the shooting, bear, ammunition, and foot wound, will be out in the next few days.

No. No. No. You're supposed to shoot your hiking buddy in the foot...

29 posted on 08/18/2016 5:46:02 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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To: marktwain

All you need to defeat a bear is a pair of running shoes and a slow buddy!


30 posted on 08/18/2016 5:49:42 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Glock mod 20 ftw. Good for packs of two legged urban varmints as well. Still have several mags full of the original Black Talon just for that purpose.


31 posted on 08/18/2016 5:49:58 AM PDT by Noumenon (We owe them nothing: not respect, not loyalty, not obedience.)
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To: elcid1970

You have won the COVETED post of the thread.


32 posted on 08/18/2016 5:51:50 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Mr. Douglas

That’d just piss off the bear.


33 posted on 08/18/2016 5:51:50 AM PDT by Noumenon (We owe them nothing: not respect, not loyalty, not obedience.)
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To: 2nd Amendment

Funniest ad recently was the two Masai tribesmen accosted by a lion. One slowly reaches into his kitbag & dons his Adidas shoes. The other asks,

“Do you think you can outrun the lion in those?”

“No. Only you.”

;^)


34 posted on 08/18/2016 5:54:49 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: marktwain

But, but, but ... I’m sure that all the bear needed was a little more love and respect!


35 posted on 08/18/2016 5:54:53 AM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: akalinin

In the autumn of 1948, one of my aunts who had served as a Navy nurse during WWII had moved on to her civilian nursing career and was working in the hospital in my home town.
A big burly coal miner came into the ER, having accidentaly shot himself in the foot while hunting.
As the story goes, he was a somewhat difficult patient, but nevertheless they began dating and a year or two later were married and remained so until his death in 2000.
Til the very end, he held that shooting himself in the foot was one of the best things that ever happened to him :)


36 posted on 08/18/2016 5:57:51 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Noumenon

Looks like the 10 mm has more penetrating power for bears. The general gist I got from the thread is that you go for 10mm for the woods and .45 for human targets. Two interesting takeaways for me:
1. There is a concern about over-penetration with 10mm.
2. Apparently 10mm is abnormally loud, that was the consensus, though one poster said it was no different than other rounds.


37 posted on 08/18/2016 6:04:04 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: marktwain
AK: Hiker Stops Charging Brown Bear at 6 Feet with 10mm Pistol

If I was charging a brown bear I'd stop a lot further away than 6 feet no matter what hand-cannon I had.

</snark>

38 posted on 08/18/2016 6:09:29 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Mr. Douglas

My observations on the 10mm and the Glock mod 20:

In that pistol, it is very controllable and very accurate. It is ideal for the sort of urban social situations that have become all too common, and over penetration is a virtue, not a vice in such situations. Not louder than most effective one-shot-per-customer pistol/ammo combos. IMHO.


39 posted on 08/18/2016 6:22:03 AM PDT by Noumenon (We owe them nothing: not respect, not loyalty, not obedience.)
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To: Noumenon

Interestingly, my biggest challenge with 10mm is something I didn’t even mention: Availability and cost of ammo.

And I have no intention of loading my own.


40 posted on 08/18/2016 6:25:24 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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