Mike Pence Removes ALL Lobbyists From Trump Administration Transition Team!

Common Sense Evaluation ^

[gaggs]

Operation Drain the Swamp has begun. Vice President-elect Mike Pence reportedly ordered the removal of all lobbyists from president-elect Donald Trump's transition team.

[nathanbedford]

I said so before the nomination and I have kept my promise.

You have not answered my question, do you or do you not support Article V?

[central_va]

Is Trump proposing an expansion of the oppressive regulatory state?

No he is not.

Is Trump proposing to increase personal and corporate income taxes?

No the opposite in fact.

Did you vote for for Trump?

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

You sir...are an ass.
Begone.

[central_va]

Yes I support Article V. Did you vote for Trump?

[central_va]

My bad I should have said "cutting taxes and raising tariffs"

So did you vote for Trump?

[central_va]

So was voting for Gary inspiring? The tongue party?

[central_va]

nathenbedford can’t tell us who he voted for so that is the type you are dealing with.

[NorthMountain]

So ... by your own admission, Trump supports a reduction in the regulatory state and a reduction in corporate and personal income taxes ... the very things I support.

And now you know (part of) WHY I voted for Trump.

And you can take your libelous accusation of hypocrisy and shove it up your ass.

Sideways.

OBTW, my home State of WEST Virginia voted overwhelmingly for Trump. I could have 'safely' voted third party, had I been so inclined. I did not. Choke on that, while you're at it.

[RFEngineer]

“We are the economical supplier of beef to China and they are the economical supplier of cement to us.”

I’m not advocating for insider sweetheart crony deals in congress.

But I’m also not advocating for a piece-wise wipeout of our industrial base either. That WOULD happen in a pristine “free trade” environment.

“I am not calling for us to become or even to remain the trade punching bag we have become, but I am calling for a data based approach,”

The data says all steel mill jobs and all cement manufacturing jobs will disappear. Auto assembly jobs would follow soon after in a complete “free trade” environment, repeat with every manufacturing industry one by one.

The data also says we could import all our labor from Mexico and China for those jobs that require labor in-country. All IT jobs could be done cheaper with imported labor from India. repeat with every service industry job one by one.

I don’t think you or you or Milton completely understand what you are advocating on this topic. It sounds good on paper. It’s batshit crazy when you even think about implementing it in any widespread fashion.

Just because the data says “buy it cheaper from China” doesn’t make that the right decision.

[central_va]

What’s wrong with a reduction in the regulatory state and a reduction in corporate and personal income taxes? Who ever said that? Trump is also for raising tariffs and rightly so. All three are tools to halt globalism and the de industrialization of the USA. These tactics are not mutually exclusive. Actually doing them together will work the best.

[central_va]

Love your post.

[NorthMountain]

What’s wrong with a reduction in the regulatory state and a reduction in corporate and personal income taxes?

I reiterate:

So ... by your own admission, Trump supports a reduction in the regulatory state and a reduction in corporate and personal income taxes ... the very things I support.

Are you daft? Can you read?

[central_va]

Step one is for China to de industrialize the USA. Once the USA has been de industrialized their Asian African and Pacific conquests can begin.

Without a robust industrial base to back it up our military becomes a paper tiger. Looks good but unable to sustain a long war of attrition.

[central_va]

Trump supports a 35% tariff and killing NAFTA and TPP. So are you for that too?

[Leep]

Lot’s of lawyers, and folk’s with degrees in politics from important Universities, left.

[NorthMountain]

35% tariff

Against.

killing NAFTA and TPP

For.

He doesn't have to agree with me on everything to earn a vote.

Trump is about 90% right.

Hildebeeste is worse than 0% ... she's a negative. Actively destructive. Bam-Bam is also a negative, for reference.

The third-party candidates were a bunch of idiots (and not going to win).

[KC Burke]

He, you and I have all been around a long time. As a conservative, I count “toleration” as one of my attributes.

While free trade is in line with a free society, it is not an idol to be put on a shelf.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Again, I refer you to my post #123.

You ARE an ass.

[central_va]

100 years form now Americans will curse us for “giving away the store” to globalists. I have a hard time tolerating that.

[nathanbedford]

You claim that the data tells us that we will lose all our manufacturing piece by piece and all our IT work piece by piece to India.

But is that true? So far, while we have in fact lost manufacturing and while we are in fact sending IT work wholesale across the Internet to India and elsewhere, we are also expanding our exports. The argument goes on, whether we are better off or worse off as a nation as a result. The debate also goes on about the lag time between trade losses and new markets created by trade just as the question of the lag between jobs lost to automation and jobs created by automation.

But there is no debate about your solution if it goes awry. If you interdict trade with China, for example, you will have to withdraw into economic fortress America and we will simply spin off into a massive depression. Of that there can be no doubt.

I am advocating for a balanced, data-driven, special interest-free approach recognizing that there is always a trade-off which we are duty bound to admit not only to ourselves but to our consumers and to adversely affected American industries. Above all we must not seal ourselves off from world trade and yet we must fight our corner.

In a representative democracy the consumer has as much right to be represented in trade negotiations as the machine shop worker. Yet we are dealing with mercantilist competitors and we have historically gone into the fray defenseless. Among the weapons which should be brandished are tariffs but only as a last resort knowing the downside risks to particular industries, to consumers, and to the economy as a whole if we miscalculate.

Pray that Trump in brandishing tariffs is actually aware of the downside risks and is only using tariffs as a negotiating ploy and has no intention of using them at all except as a last resort.