“No. Baptism is a means of grace but not grace itself.”
If Baptism is freely given and gives grace, it is then grace. This is why Peter says Baptism “saves you” rather than “the grace of Baptism saves you” (even though the latter would be more correct).
“Grace is the disposition of God towards sinners because of what Christ has done on the cross.”
It’s not just a disposition.
“You seem to think Grace is something like liquid that is poured into man in exchange for some odd Romish understanding of “faith” because like Monty Hall, God wants to make a deal with you.”
So you’re now going to resort to pejoratives?
“For the umpteenth time, you are mindlessly repeating that infants have no faith.”
Because that’s the truth. You keep proving it too.
“You do not have a scriptural understanding of faith but a colloquial understanding of it.”
No, the exact opposite. If you’re already resorting to pejoratives and insults, than I guess you can’t make much of an argument.
>>>>“No. Baptism is a means of grace but not grace itself.”
>>If Baptism is freely given and gives grace, it is then grace. This is why Peter says Baptism “saves you” rather than “the grace of Baptism saves you” (even though the latter would be more correct).
You make no salient point with that verbal gymnastics.
>>>>“Grace is the disposition of God towards sinners because of what Christ has done on the cross.”
>>It’s not just a disposition.
Then what is it?
>>>>“You seem to think Grace is something like liquid that is poured into man in exchange for some odd Romish understanding of “faith” because like Monty Hall, God wants to make a deal with you.”
>>So you’re now going to resort to pejoratives?
Its not pejorative to cut to the chase: exchanging God’s doing (grace) for Man’s doing (faith). Lutherans reject that. Faith is a gift. The object of that faith is God’s faithfulness in keeping in promise for Christ’s sake.
>>>>“For the umpteenth time, you are mindlessly repeating that infants have no faith.”
>>Because that’s the truth. You keep proving it too.
The implication of your position is that infants are without hope and God’s salvific economy becomes a joke and God becomes a liar: with the claim that “Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven.” How could the kingdom belong to them?
>>>>“You do not have a scriptural understanding of faith but a colloquial understanding of it.”
>>No, the exact opposite. If you’re already resorting to pejoratives and insults, than I guess you can’t make much of an argument.
You have yet to make a single cogent argument other than make a conclusory statement that is mindlessly repeated: children cannot have faith.