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Bear Kills Teen Runner: It Should Have Been a Defensive Gun Use
Gun Watch ^ | 20 June, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/27/2017 5:50:16 AM PDT by marktwain


A 16-year-old was killed by a black bear on a organized race in Alaska yesterday, on 19 June, 2017.  The runner had plenty of time to use a defensive firearm.  He had called family members to text them that he was being chased by a bear. From adn.com:

The runner had apparently made it to the halfway point turnaround and was on his way down when he used his phone to text a family member at 12:37 p.m. that he was being chased by a bear, Precosky said. The family member approached Precosky, who was then in the middle of handing out awards.

"I went off and talked to him about it, trying to get a straight story," Precosky said. "He was very shaken and had received this communication."

A search was launched immediately, Precosky said. The family member had GPS coordinates from the missing runner's phone that helped guide searchers to the area where his phone was. But the searchers, including runners that were part of the race, couldn't get closer.
This has all the hallmarks of predatory black bear attack.  The attack was well  telegraphed, because the runner had time to phone and text people about it. After the runner was killed, the bear stayed near the body and would not allow rescuers near it.  The bear was finally driven off when a park ranger shot it in the face with a shotgun slug, wounding it.

Black bears usually break off an attack when serious resistance is encountered. Black bears in predatory mode do not want to risk a serious wound. For a wild animal, a serious wound is often fatal.

The runner was able and willing to carry a cell phone. They could easily have carried a Ruger LCP, which weighs about as much.

There was a time when most people in Alaska knew that wild places had risks associated with them.  It should have been a defensive gun use. From adn.com
"This young man didn't do anything wrong. He was just in the wrong place," Crockett said. "You can't predict which bear is going to be predatory."
Exactly so. Which is why prudent people carry arms.

 A hiker killed a charging brown bear on the trail in 2013, with an AK74.

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Most black bear attacks are predatory. As black bears seldom live long enough to eat people regularly, the initial attacks are tentative. The bear will "test" the prey to make sure it is not in danger of being injured.

This often presents excellent opportunities for use of a defensive firearm.

1 posted on 06/27/2017 5:50:17 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Bella Twin, a tiny Cree woman, shot and killed a world record grizzly bear with a single shot .22 rifle in 1953.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2017/06/bella-twin-22-used-to-take-1953-world.html


2 posted on 06/27/2017 5:52:11 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

The bear was finally driven off when a park ranger shot it in the face with a shotgun slug, wounding it.

OK, that bear was either the most badass bear out there or this reads wrong. How does any creature just get wounded by a shotgun slug to the face?


3 posted on 06/27/2017 5:57:31 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: marktwain

Kudos to Bella. Also, obviously, someone was looking out for her.


4 posted on 06/27/2017 6:05:50 AM PDT by OKSooner (Never take a known wise-ass to the shooting range.)
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To: bk1000

Angle of the bear skull versus the slug causes the slug to glance off.

But such a slug has plenty of bear kill power barring a fluke angle.


5 posted on 06/27/2017 6:06:13 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: bk1000

A bear’s skull is very thick and strong; shots often just bounce off.


6 posted on 06/27/2017 6:06:57 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: bk1000

Remember that this was likely a gun-hating journalist writing the story.
It might not have been a slug. Or even a shotgun.


7 posted on 06/27/2017 6:07:00 AM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: bk1000

OK, that bear was either the most badass bear out there or this reads wrong. How does any creature just get wounded by a shotgun slug to the face?


1. The slug only hit a glancing blow to the face, just grazing the skin.

2. The slug hit a non-lethal part of the face, perhaps the nose.

3. The ranger thought he shot it in the face, but the bear moved, or he jerked the trigger, or the slug hit a sapling on the way there, and he missed.


8 posted on 06/27/2017 6:07:08 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: bk1000

....How does any creature just get wounded by a shotgun slug to the face?...

Hit in the side of the cheek?


9 posted on 06/27/2017 6:08:18 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not tired of Winning.)
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To: marktwain
Ruger LCP?

Useless against bears unless the noise scares them away.

10 posted on 06/27/2017 6:11:41 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: bk1000

Easily, if it isn’t a brain shot they do not die very quickly. Ask any hunter who has shot a deer with half his face blown away, that deer can run for miles.


11 posted on 06/27/2017 6:12:53 AM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: bk1000

Many years ago we shot a ring tailed cat in the nose (unintentionally).

He ran off. We found him hours later still alive but near death.

I spend several weeks a year on the Yukon alone with the Bears. Suspended from a shoulder holster around both shoulders is a .500 S & W Magnum at all times. Nearby is a Remington 870 Tactical chambered for 3 “ Magnum rounds. Mines loaded with the triple ought.

Anyone in the outdoors of Alaska un armed is crazy, in my opinion.


12 posted on 06/27/2017 6:16:23 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: marktwain

It took a deer slug to the face just to get the bear to back off. I think a little pistola would just have pissed it off.


13 posted on 06/27/2017 6:18:46 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Smoke does not mean fire when someone threw a smoke grenade.)
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To: marktwain

“with an AK74.”

AK47 ??


14 posted on 06/27/2017 6:19:12 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Here you go.

http://www.mountsplus.com/blog/ak-rifles-ak-47-vs-ak-74-vs-ak-12/


15 posted on 06/27/2017 6:24:32 AM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: Texas Fossil

"...47 v. 74..."


Mr. Kalashnikov designed both of those firearms.

16 posted on 06/27/2017 6:26:49 AM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: marktwain

Bella knew about Shot Placement...

In The Temple,

Between the Ear and Eye.


17 posted on 06/27/2017 6:29:53 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: marktwain
The black bear population in CT has exploded over the past ten years. I laugh at the people who say they are harmless animals. I remember hearing that you fight a black bear and play dead with the brown bear. The black bear usually attacks a person to eat them.
18 posted on 06/27/2017 6:41:06 AM PDT by peeps36 (Obama = the skidmark on America's underwear)
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To: marktwain
They could easily have carried a Ruger LCP, which weighs about as much.

I've got one of those, and I guarantee it wouldn't stop a charging bear. I put four .380 hollowpoints into the head and neck of snapping turtle, and he was still alive four hours later, just sayin'...

A .44 mag would be better protection, but they are a little heavy for a runner to tote along with him; not to mention he's a teenager, he may not be allowed to carry a handgun.

Having adults stationed along the route of the race with high powered rifles would be more practical.

19 posted on 06/27/2017 6:42:03 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Kenton

I’ve got one of those, and I guarantee it wouldn’t stop a charging bear.


The bear was not charging, or the runner would not have been able to get out his phone and text his parent that he was being chased by a bear.

Lots of black bears, and a few grizzlys have been killed with .22 rimfires. A .380 is more powerful than a .22 rimfire.


20 posted on 06/27/2017 6:54:35 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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