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Social Security Won't Give You Security
The Coach's Team ^ | 1/10/18 | Chris Hogan

Posted on 01/10/2018 8:07:57 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

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To: alexander_busek

Nope. I figured in those who will die. In fact, I would not be surprised to find the Government trying to find some way to kill off the oldsters.

They have already found a way in Europe with “euthanasia” in which old people are afraid to go to the doctor as the doctor may decide on his own that the old person has “no quality of life left” and kill him.


41 posted on 01/10/2018 9:10:42 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Obadiah

The first Social Security beneficiary, Ida Mae Fuller, worked for three years under the Social Security program.

The accumulated taxes on her salary during those three years was a total of $24.75.

Her initial monthly check was $22.54.

During her lifetime she collected a total of $22,888.92 in Social Security benefits.


42 posted on 01/10/2018 9:11:33 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I can’t find a citation for the 2.05. Heritage is using the 2.8. Bad enough.


43 posted on 01/10/2018 9:12:02 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Took my Social Security at age 62 since I was diagnosed with Leukemia when I was 52. My “Expiration” Date was estimated to be ten to fifteen Years at the time of my diagnosis.

My Social Security covers 3/4’s of our Obamacare era $2,100 Monthly Health Insurance Premium. I’m just a pass through, like the old Bucket Brigade.

Since I still work, part of my SS is taxable on my 1040 because of our Income level and I still pay SS Payroll Taxes.


44 posted on 01/10/2018 9:18:50 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Tweet softly, but carry a big stick.)
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To: DuncanWaring

My mother paid into SS from roughly 1940-1945.

She started collecting at age 65,about $2000.00 per year.

She collected that amount for 26 years,approx. $50,000.00

No wonder we’re in trouble.

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45 posted on 01/10/2018 9:21:22 AM PST by Mears
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To: freedumb2003

“allowing a TINY % of SS to be invested by the owners”

That’s the best solution. However, the “problem” is one of control. Once a person can invest the money themselves, the government can’t touch it.

The frigging solution is so damn simple, but, again, the problem lies with the powermongers and knownothings that are infinitely more wise than you’ll ever be! (sarcasm implied)


46 posted on 01/10/2018 9:26:19 AM PST by edh
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To: mylife

You do understand you retire in an area where the cost of living is low.


I lived in Seattle for 46 years. Two weeks before the 2008 election I purchased my new house and 12 acres (now 32) in central, rural KY. My house payment is less than my car payment - on a 15 year loan. :)

And my annual real estate taxes are about the same as one car payment. Further, they will be cut in half once we turn 65. :)

Oh, and though this is an income tax state, it doesn’t apply to SS.

Lastly, it is absolutely beautiful here.

i.e. I moved here on purpose. :)


47 posted on 01/10/2018 9:29:17 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: robroys woman

Amen!


48 posted on 01/10/2018 9:31:05 AM PST by mylife ( The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: joesbucks

You didn’t recover after 20 years?


Nope. At one point my maintenance and child support was $3,500 a month.

Also, the divorce actually made me a little crazy in the following way: I don’t trust the government. I have a deep and sorta subconscious “background noise” attitude that if I build up any kind of wealth it will simply be taken from me. So my retirement plan is to own my real estate free and clear (I fought the background noise), have assets that can’t be tracked down by others, drastically reduce my cost of living, and go from there. It’s actually working out pretty well. We live very comfortably and enjoy a quite nice lifestyle that can easily be supported by SS alone if it actually came to that.

However, we are very healthy for our age thanks to genes, partly (my father just stopped playing in a softball league five years ago, and my wife’s father passed away last month, the first of our parents to die), I’ll be working and able to work for some time if necessary. and the work I do (IT) pays well.


49 posted on 01/10/2018 9:34:08 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: mylife
"....an entitlement program...."

I am tried of people telling me SS is an entitlement program. It's not welfare.

The only part that's an entitlement to it is that I am entitled to it because it is my money.

I am also tired of people calling me an idiot for drawing SS. It is my money and I am just getting some of it back.

Nobody is forcing anyone to draw their SS benefits. If some people don't want it, fine with me but I don't deserve their derision because of my choice.

And finally, this author is full of BS.

Saying SS is not a retirement plan or that it doesn't provide "security" is moot to those of us who are drawing our benefits and living on it already.

My wife and I live comfortably on our SS income raising beef cattle on a farm. Our new home and 30 acre farm in Florida and three others houses we own in South Carolina (rental), Arizona (rental) and a lake house second home 10 miles away from here, are all free and clear of mortgages. We don't owe money on our credit cards and we travel three or four times a year, as well. Pretty crappy retirement living on SS.

We're not "rich" but we are not "poor" either. We managed our finances, saved our money and minimized debt when we worked and raised our kids. We didn't party it all away. Not sure what kind of retirement some folks want but the idea put forth by many financial advisers that one needs millions of dollars to retire comfortably is BS.

50 posted on 01/10/2018 9:35:45 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: HotHunt

Amen!


51 posted on 01/10/2018 9:41:52 AM PST by mylife ( The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: MAGA2020

DING...DING...DING...You win todays award for seeing thru the politicians scam


52 posted on 01/10/2018 9:43:01 AM PST by goodnesswins (There were 1.41 MILLION NON Profit orgs in 2013 with $1.73 TRILLION in REVENUE)
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To: OIFVeteran
Yeah, we all know where the money from SS revenue is in the government.

It's in a "lock box" that idiot Al Gore informed us in one of his debates with GW Bush.

Al never did tell us where this infamous "lock box" was nor did he admit that the federal government was the only one with a key to this so-called "lock box" and that they managed to pilfer all of the money away by mixing it in with operating funds received from the taxpayers.

53 posted on 01/10/2018 9:43:34 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"Gimme MY damned dollars"

Damn right! It is my money! And now they they want to say to bad we pi$$ed it away and you get $crewed! Between the Government and the supposit knowledgeable investment professionals most people have been repeatedly rob and little or nothing done about. Sooner or later those who should have went to jail will be wishing they did because I see a rope and a lamp post in their future.
54 posted on 01/10/2018 9:45:41 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Oldpuppymax

All i know is i am screwed, you will see me in 2053 greeting Walmart shoppers at the age of 85...


55 posted on 01/10/2018 9:47:42 AM PST by mowowie
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To: HotHunt

I see the retirement advisors commercials and wince.

Folks are doing the watusi on the beach, jumping out of planes, whitewater rafting, climbing Mt Everest. LOL

Do it now because when you retire you be old. lol

At that point a fire and a friend makes me happy.


56 posted on 01/10/2018 9:47:59 AM PST by mylife ( The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: patriotspride
I started three small businesses that manage to lose enough money to offset my SS income.

If the federal government can play games with our money, we can play too.

57 posted on 01/10/2018 9:49:00 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: HotHunt

You know what is not and never was intended to be a retirement plan? 401Ks. They were intended as a supplement to a retirement plan.

Markets rolling right along right now, YEEHAWW!!
Hate to be the fool who is forced to retire when the bubble pops!


58 posted on 01/10/2018 9:55:11 AM PST by mylife ( The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife
Exactly.

I had friends who waited to retire and they died in the meantime. So much for wise financial planning.

When I turned 62, I grabbed my SS and moved to a cattle farm in rural Florida with my wife of 42 years.

We love it and have no regrets.

59 posted on 01/10/2018 9:55:57 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: mylife
My wife and I's 401Ks went bust in 2008 when the stock market crashed right before Obama won.

Never put another dime into the stock market after that. Didn't have enough time to start over and lose it again.

60 posted on 01/10/2018 9:58:33 AM PST by HotHunt
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