Posted on 04/11/2020 12:51:31 AM PDT by JediJones
We can define a lockdown in today's world as a government-ordered shutdown of businesses, schools, public facilities and of the free movement of people in general. Lockdowns are taking away human freedom under the rationale of trying to "save lives." This is no different from the argument used for banning guns, e.g. "if it will save just one life, we have to do it." Neither policy actually works for similar reasons.
A. Both guns and the virus are already out there. In theory, a ban on importing or making guns and on letting someone with the virus into the country might've worked if it could've been implemented before the first one existed within the borders. But it's too late for that. A ban or lockdown can't get rid of the guns or the virus that are already here.
B. Actually enforcing the well-defined laws on the books is far more effective than trying to ban things for everybody in the country. Guns only kill people when criminals have them. It's already illegal for criminals to have them. So we should focus on finding the criminals who have them and taking them away. Similarly with the virus, longtime quarantine policy already deals with people who have the virus, who are the only people who can infect anyone else. Quarantining EVERYBODY has never been done before and is impossible to enforce. There remain exceptions to the policy everywhere as well as people who just violate the policy. We should focus our energies on finding and quarantining the infected. That's a proven strategy used throughout history.
C. As stated above, a complete ban on guns or a complete lockdown is impossible to enforce. Putting an idealistic, unrealistic policy into place is a useless gesture. The people who are the most careless with taking precautions against getting the virus will be the same people who violate the lockdown. Therefore a large number of the same people will get the virus whether they are under lockdown or not. This is already being seen in eastern Pennsylvania which is getting thousands of new cases from people coming in from New York in the past week, despite both of those states being on "lockdown" for weeks.
D. A permanent lockdown is unthinkable. But permanent alcohol prohibition wasn't unthinkable. And the left wants a permanent ban on guns. But how effective is a ban, like the "lockdown," when we already know it's not going to be permanent? Prohibition didn't end drinking while it was in place. And once prohibition was ended, drinking became America's favorite pastime. If a ban on guns was started but then ended, then the best it might've done was delay a first-time criminal from buying a gun and killing somebody who then ends up doing it anyway.
And that brings us to the coronavirus. We are now beginning to see that once a region eases up a lockdown, the virus starts spreading again. The governors are operating on a fanciful theory that a lockdown can bring the virus cases down to "near zero," after which the lockdown can be lifted and life can return to normal. But since universal enforcement is logistically impossible as stated above, this can never happen. The virus cannot be eliminated through lockdowns. As long as the population lacks herd immunity, the virus will spread. All lockdowns can do is slow down an inevitable spread at an enormous financial cost and psychological toll. If a policy is not SUSTAINABLE over the long-term then it CANNOT be effective against a pandemic. Short-term half-measures will be quickly overcome by the ongoing march of the contagion.
The early argument for lockdowns was that we needed to "buy time" to get hospital facilities and equipment up and running. This argument soon was abandoned as medical facilities not only quickly were expanded to meet demand but far exceeded demand in most places. The time to improve the infrastructure has been bought, if we actually really needed any time at all. There are no more logical arguments for continuing the lockdowns.
Blanket bans on human freedoms have never worked to control human behavior. The ravages of nature cannot be fought with inconsistently enforced policies that are inherently fraught with loopholes and violations. Targeted policies that quarantine the sick and incoming travelers are what we have done throughout history to contain contagious disease, along with teaching people how to take hygienic precautions against infection. These are the only kinds of policies that are realistic, sustainable and can be implemented in a consistent and effective way to contain the coronavirus. Lockdowns can only weaken the country's psychological and economic resilience while providing absolutely no long-term protection against the virus.
As I’ve said before ... You’re seeing what happens when a society is governed by the whims of suburban women. It invariably ends up run in way that is emotional, ill-informed, and impractical. And it ultimately ends in ruins.
bkmk
The deconstruction of The United States of America in real time. Witness.
Amen. The fear and panic seems to be aimed at Gen Y women who use social media but also mostly rely on CNN or The View for news. They then spread the “we must do more to save the children/elderly/whatever” panic on social and the elected officials play off that on their actions for votes.
You get useless emotional responses to a crisis that don’t help or make it worse.
Very well put.
My wife believes every bit of the doom and gloom that the hyena media puts out.
There is no and never has been a lockdown in the “hood”.
I’m of the opinion that the tyrants running roughshod over American civil rights need to be arrested and tossed in the crossbar hotel for violations of Title 18 Section 242.
We should focus our energies on finding and quarantining the infected>>>>>>>>>
MAde eminently possible with the prophylactic application of the drug Hydroxy-Chloroiquine with Zinc Vitamins....THE LARGEST ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT.
PUT US BACK TOP WORK.
GIVE US THE DRUG!
Deported to North Korea after some incarceration.
LOL! Seriously? I'm tired of hearing about it. I think some FReepers are showering in fish tank cleaner.
There’s a reason why dire projections about COVID-19 have been wrong.
One of the reasons is called Hydroxy-chloroiquin, which does not exist as a factor for the lefty , plutocrat modellers like Birx and Fauci and the globalist ‘salvateur/sabateur’ Bill Gates.
There has been a huge usage by physicians which has not been tracked , because BIG PHARM does not want it to be tracked.
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End the pandemic with cheap, available meds:
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Put every citizen in the USA on Hydroxy-chloroquin prophylaxis dosage. ( 1 x 200 mg HCQ/day, 1 x 220 mg Zinc sulphate or other Zinc vitamin/day)Reopen our Country.
Do NOT listen to big pharm and Plutocrats like Fauci and Birx.
Do not let the Alinskyites win by permanently creating a socialist nation .
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RE-OPEN THE COUNTRY
USE the HCQ
The Zelenko Protocol:
Dr Zelenko has perfected a therapy in the United States which has three components proven to work, every time, if administered before the lungs fill with mucus.
What is being used is a combination of drugs , not just Hydroxy-chloroquin, which shows that the Democrats and Big Pharm do not want what is working should be understood by the People.They rail against a single part of the therapy without revealing the rest of it because IT WORKS.But it has to be administered before the lungs fill with mucus.
But what President Trump’s agent, Rudy Giuliani has done is created a populist end run around the CDC ( Fauci) and the FDA. This to save lives.( See video link below)
If you are a Trump supporter you know what to do. Contact your physician and ask whether this therapy can be available if you need it. If not shop around. And if you find a Jewish doctor, you’re in like Flynn.The therapy cost of the drugs is $20.00, so it won’t break you.
Its really up to you.
President Trump has arranged for millions of dosages to come into our country from Israel’s Teva Corporation....Free. Availability will be no problem.
Secondly there is a pretty sure possibility that hydroxy-chloroquine acts as an prophylaxis, taking 1 x 200 mg HCQ per day along with a 200 mg Zinc supplement.Almost all of the front line doctors in NYC are doing this, so why not everybody. We soon will have enough HCQ to do that.
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THIS CAN SAVE YOUR LIFE
EXCELLENT NEWS: Hydroxychloroquine Treatment Effective on 699 Patients
Must see video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TJdjhd_XG8&t=586s
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Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko
Board Certified Family Practitioner
501 Rt 208, Monroe, NY 10950
845-238-0000
March 23, 2020
To all medical professionals around the world:
My name is Dr. Zev Zelenko and I practice medicine in Monroe, NY. For the last 16 years, I have cared for approximately 75% of the adult population of Kiryas Joel, which is a very close knit community of approximately 35,000 people in which the infection spread rapidly and unchecked prior to the imposition of social distancing.
As of today my team has tested approximately 200 people from this community for Covid-19, and 65% of the results have been positive. If extrapolated to the entire community, that means more than 20,000 people are infected at the present time. Of this group, I estimate that there are 1500 patients who are in the high-risk category (i.e. >60, immunocompromised, comorbidities, etc).
Given the urgency of the situation, I developed the following treatment protocol in the pre-hospital setting and have seen only positive results:
1. Any patient with shortness of breath regardless of age is treated.
2. Any patient in the high-risk category even with just mild symptoms is treated.
3. Young, healthy and low risk patients even with symptoms are not treated (unless their circumstances change and they fall into category 1 or 2).
My out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:
1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days
2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days
3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days
The rationale for my treatment plan is as follows. I combined the data available from China and South Korea with the recent study published from France (sites available on request). We know that hydroxychloroquine helps Zinc enter the cell. We know that Zinc slows viral replication within the cell. Regarding the use of azithromycin, I postulate it prevents secondary bacterial infections. These three drugs are well known and usually well tolerated, hence the risk to the patient is low.
Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen.
Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea.
In sum, my urgent recommendation is to initiate treatment in the outpatient setting as soon as possible in accordance with the above. Based on my direct experience, it prevents acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), prevents the need for hospitalization and saves lives.
With much respect,
Dr. Zev Zelenko
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Nope. LOL. I have been ignoring every stupid order my governor has issued for weeks now.
“As I’ve said before ... You’re seeing what happens when a society is governed by the whims of suburban women. It invariably ends up run in way that is emotional, ill-informed, and impractical. And it ultimately ends in ruins.”
I’m sorry to say this, BUT you are 100% correct! That does not bode well for the future.
“You get useless emotional responses to a crisis that don’t help or make it worse.”
NO — not help. They absolutely MAKE IT WORSE. Not only from CNN & The View, but they have been indoctrinated their entire lives in government schools and our colleges. That means, I’m afraid, it only gets worse — not better.
Yes, thank you. I’ve read all of that, multiple times.
And now there’s another 4 screens of it on this thread.
That was my point, FRiend.
I get it.
“In theory, a ban on importing or making guns and on letting someone with the virus into the country might’ve worked if it could’ve been implemented before the first one existed within the borders. But it’s too late for that. A ban or lockdown can’t get rid of the guns or the virus that are already here.”
No, sorry. Heroin is not produced within the USA and is consumed by use. That ban doesn’t work either, so explain why?
More to the point is to admit that prohibition laws never work, because otherwise (in the absence of solely that law) honest people have honest reasons for demanding the contraband item.
“Actually enforcing the well-defined laws on the books is far more effective than trying to ban things for everybody in the country”
Sincere question: by “well-defined” laws, do you include existing gun bans? Or do you mean “mala in se” laws against basic crimes like murder, mayhem, threat, and property destruction?
Laws against mala in se crimes that have actual victims are generally well-received by citizens and enforceable. Laws against “precursor crimes” and “paperwork crimes” that have no actual victims are generally oppressive ineffective. Their failure leads to the imposition of follow-on laws of the same type, equally ineffective, until your rights are eroded to the point that you are forbidden to do things that actually harm nobody.
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