New Leak Shows ATF Will Pass Rule to Eliminate Private Sales

Ammoland ^ | Aug 7, 2023 | John Crump

[Lazamataz]

e Biden administration will use executive orders and the weaponized ATF to issue a rule limiting the private sales of firearms. According to the New York Times and verified by AmmoLand News sources, the new rule is expected to be unveiled by the end of the year.

President Joe Biden plans to announce that he is directing the ATF to close what Everytown calls the “private sales loophole” and the “digital loophole.” The “private sales loophole” is when an individual sells a firearm for profit but does not possess a Federal Firearm License (FFL).

Biden will call on the ATF to develop a new rule requiring anyone who makes any profit by selling firearms to possess an FFL. Guns tend to increase in value over time. A gun purchased in 1980 will likely sell for more money today than its original value.

The so-called “digital loophole” includes marketplaces like Armslist Firearms Classified, where private individuals can list their firearms for sale. The Biden administration wants to see these marketplaces shut down, but it is unclear exactly how that unconstitutional goal will be accomplished. Websites like Armslist do not sell firearms directly.

[Lazamataz]

The premise on which they base this utterly unconstitutional 'rule' is that over time, guns appreciate in value, therefore the seller makes a profit, therefore he or she is in the business of selling firearms for profit, then needs an FFL.

Bullshit.

This will get immediately struck down, because such an action is something House needs to propose, the Senate needs to agree, and the president needs to sign a bill.

The BATF is attempting to circumvent the legislative function of Congress.

I, for one, WILL NOT COMPLY. Go ahead and arrest me. We can make MY CASE be the one that goes before SCOTUS. And heck, in the process, maybe I make a few bucks from the GoFundMe account I would open for legal costs.

[rktman]

Well that should put a screeching halt to the baddies getting weapo........oh. Hey batfe...🖕

How you doing Laz?

[Tijeras_Slim]

I’m well known for being labor to turn a Holland & Holland Royal into a Mossberg 500 in three trades. If this passes can I write my bad gun deals off my taxes?

[marktwain]

This will get immediately struck down, because such an action is something House needs to propose, the Senate needs to agree, and the president needs to sign a bill.

I hope you are correct. I have serious doubts about how fast it may happen.

First, someone has to have standing. Some courts are ruling a person must be arrested to have standing, or have a credible threat of arrest.

Second, someone must bring a case to a federal court. Then the Biden administration will fight and delay as long as they can. It could take years to resolve the case.

[sasquatch]

A gun purchased in 1980 will likely sell for more money today than its original value.

And the value of a dollar has decreased how much??
Just keep printing Bens.

[NewHampshireDuo]

Package deal - a firearm plus a painting i did yesterday afternoon. I swear, the price of the firearm is less than I paid for it.

[marktwain]

Wadaya have? I am sure I can come up with some nice Mossberg 500s! /S

[Tijeras_Slim]

I think there’s an Ithaca NID 16 gauge grade 5 peeking out from my pile of 500’s. :)

[AAABEST]

This will get immediately struck down, because such an action is something House needs to propose, the Senate needs to agree, and the president needs to sign a bill.

And it would still be unconstitutional.

[Texas resident]

Will this new rule apply to urban gangs or Mexican cartels?

[Gen.Blather]

You bought a house in 1980 for $60000. In 2023 you sold it for $70,000. You owe taxes on the $10000 “profit.” Did you make money? No. That’s the way taxes work. I presume that the “profit” on guns would work the same way.

[Drew68]

This will get immediately struck down, because such an action is something House needs to propose, the Senate needs to agree, and the president needs to sign a bill.

The BATF is attempting to circumvent the legislative function of Congress.

When he banned bump stocks by executive order, Trump showed the Democrats how to use the BATF to enact gun control laws that could never be passed legislatively.

[MileHi]

So, if you inherit a firearm, then sell it for $1, did you make a profit?

These people are out of control. They showed you in Utah last week what they are willing to do.

[Gen.Blather]

You bought a house in 1980 for $60000. In 2023 you sold it for $70,000. You owe taxes on the $10000 “profit.” Did you make money? No. That’s the way taxes work. I presume that the “profit” on guns would work the same way.

[PeterPrinciple]

The “private sales loophole” is when an individual sells a firearm for profit but does not possess a Federal Firearm License (FFL).

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Gun show loophole is a political term in the United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole

This is also called the private sale exemption.[1][2] Under federal law, any person may sell a firearm to a federally unlicensed resident of the state where they reside, as long as they do not know or have reasonable cause to believe that the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms

It is an exemption, not a loop hole.

loophole
loo͞p′hōl″
noun
A way of avoiding or escaping a cost or legal burden that would otherwise apply by means of an omission or ambiguity in the wording of a contract or law.
A small hole or slit in a wall, especially one through which small arms may be fired.
A small aperture, narrow toward the outside and splayed within, in the walls of a fortification or of any similar structure, through which small-arms may be fired at an enemy, or observations may be taken.

[dragnet2]

It’s so obvious these Communist want to disarm law abiding Americans...All while they attempt to outlaw self defense.

[Chad C. Mulligan]

You bought a house in 1980 for $60000. In 2023 you sold it for $70,000. You owe taxes on the $10000 “profit.” Did you make money? No. That’s the way taxes work. I presume that the “profit” on guns would work the same way.

Grind the middle classes between the twin millstones of inflation and taxation. V. Lenin

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[Brian Griffin]

“No person shall..hold any office, civil or military, under the United States...
who,having previously taken an oath...as an officer of the United States,
...to support the Constitution of the United States,
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same....”

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/amendment-14/section-3/

Section 3 of Amendment XIV obviously can be judicially enforced just as Section 1 can be.

I would love to see the rebel Biden booted out of office.

How much rebellion is America going to put up from Biden until someone with standing files suit?

[Antihero101607]

Is it still lawful for one individual to present a serialized firearm/barreled action/receiver/etc. as a gift? What’s to stop someone from presenting a Romanian WASR AK as a gift, then selling that very same individual a furniture set at an inflated price in what could be considered a separate transaction? Similar to the logic that was used with Polymer 80 a couple of years ago. Buy the 80% frame, and the jig in the same order, in the eyes of the feds it was a handgun. Buy the frame, and the jig separately, it wasn’t a handgun.