You are 100% correct. That’s why the RINO Cabal never protested the Barry Soetoro Obama candidacy. By his own admission. he also had British citizenship from his Kenyan sperm donor and it was Hillary’s Team that argue that he wasn’teligible to run. None of that is likely true about who Obama really is, but why argue the fine points of who gets to take our Sovereign Nation down the tubes, eligible or not.
That horse left the barn 15 years ago (and won the Kentucky Derby and crapped on the Constitution).
The problem isn’t the NBC requirement, the problem is kleptomaniac airhead douchnozzle traitors getting traction in both parties.
After the Obamanation of Desolation, yeah, pretty much they are.
“ The Supreme Court has never ruled on the meaning of the term natural born citizen.”
And that’s where your argument falls apart.
That law has already been broken by Stanley Ann Dunham’s little boy ...
His father was African just here on a student visa...
YAWN!!
This one has been argued and debated endlessly since 2008 right here in the High Court of Free Republic.
Both sides lost.
BTTT
To be fair, NOBODY is qualified to be president if they want to uphold the Constitution, not abuse the Constitution. Virtually every candidate but one can actually make the claim, and has proven it as well.
That ship sailed in 08
That ship sailed on 1/20/09.
Who is going to stop them?
But also irrelevant, as is most of the Constitution under the current regime.
What we need is someone with both the understanding and the will to do what is necessary to clean house. Even Trump strikes me as too much of a choir boy to do that, too infused with 1960s civic lessons who doesn't realize that his political enemies need to be destroyed before they destroy him and finish off what's left of the American republic.
Because a court might rule against a President Ramaswamy or a President Haley, I will not be voting for either citizen Ramaswamy or citizen Haley in a Republican primary as things stand now.
I simply don’t trust the judicial system of the United States.
Unless it is made clear by the current Supreme Court, via direct refusal to take a case or by direct positive affirmation, that Vivek Ramaswamy would be allowed to be President, I will not vote for him in a Republican primary.
Unless it is made clear by the current Supreme Court, via direct refusal to take a case or by direct positive affirmation, that Nikki Haley would be allowed to be President, I will not vote for her in a Republican primary.
In my opinion, the natural born citizen requirement is meant to ensure inherent loyalty to the United States. In my opinion, it means not having any foreign citizenship at birth.
Enough of this nonsense. All three were born in the US and none of the three would ever be denied the presidency if they won the election. This natural born citizen nonsense carries zero weight with any court or the US Congress. It is a specious argument at best.
The qualifications for Vice-President and President are identical.
Chester Arthur (R) (1881) became Vice-President with an alien father.
Kamala Harris (D) (2021) became Vice-President with two alien parents.
Chester Arthur (R) (1881) became President with an alien father.
Barack Obama (D) (2009) became President with an alien father.
Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 698, 716.
The Convention between the United States and China of 1894 provided that"Chinese laborers or Chinese of any other class, either permanently or temporarily residing in the United States, shall have for the protection of their persons and property all rights that are given by the laws of the United States to citizens of the most favored nation, excepting the right to become naturalized citizens."
28 Stat. 111. And it has since been decided, by the same judge who held this appellee to be a citizen of the United States by virtue of his birth therein, that a native of China of the Mongolian race could not be admitted to citizenship under the naturalization laws. In re Gee Hop (1895), 71 Fed.Rep. 274.
The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in the declaration that
"all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside,"
contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two only: birth and naturalization. Citizenship by naturalization can only be acquired by naturalization under the authority and in the forms of law. But citizenship by birth is established by the mere fact of birth under the circumstances defined in the Constitution. Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization.
149 U.S. 704
VII. Upon the facts agreed in this case, the American citizenship which Wong Kim Ark acquired by birth within the United States has not been lost or taken away by anything happening since his birth.
Wong Kim Ark acquired citizenship by birth while being born to two Chinese aliens.
There are two classes of citizen, and two only: natural born and naturalized. Naturalization applies only to aliens at a time after their birth. Wong Kim Ark was a citizen at birth, did not need naturalization, and as a citizen was not even eligible for naturalization. That leaves only the one other category possible, natural born citizen.
Slaughterhouse Cases, 83 U.S. 36, 73 (1872)
The first observation we have to make on this clause is that it puts at rest both the questions which we stated to have been the subject of differences of opinion. It declares that persons may be citizens of the United States without regard to their citizenship of a particular State, and it overturns the Dred Scott decision by making all persons born within the United States and subject to its jurisdiction citizens of the United States. That its main purpose was to establish the citizenship of the negro can admit of no doubt. The phrase, "subject to its jurisdiction" was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.
Lynch v. Clark, 1 Sandf. 583 (1844), as published in New York Legal Observer, Volume III, 1845
It is an indisputable proposition, that by the rule of the common law of England, if applied to these facts, Julia Lynch was a natural born citizen of the United States. And this rule was established and inflexible in the common law, long anterior to the first settlement of the United States, and, indeed, before the discovery of America by Columbus. By the common law, all persons born within the ligeance of the crown of England, were natural born subjects, without reference to the status or condition of their parents.[...]
And the constitution itself contains a direct recognition of the subsisting common law principle, in the section which defines the qualification of the President. "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President," &c. The only standard which then existed, of a natural born citizen, was the rule of the common law, and no different standard has been adopted since. Suppose a person should be elected President who was native born, but of alien parents, could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the constitution? I think not. The position would be decisive in his favor that by the rule of the common law, in force when the constitution was adopted, he is a citizen.
Vivek was born in Cincinnati, making him a Natural Born Citizen.
Agreed, no one born of two non-citizen parents is eligible.
ALL of that went out the window when they installed the kenyan/indonesian as "pResident".
I love getting into these "natural born citizen" threads.
This has been debated and your position has been found to be incorrect.
The fact that this comes up when black or brown people are running makes it even more suspect. No one was talking about this when Dukakis ran.
Anyway, there are plenty of reasons why none of these people will be President. Except Harris. I think there is a good chance she becomes President.