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They are all not eligible to be president.
1 posted on 08/30/2023 10:02:25 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
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To: Macho MAGA Man

“But that is not what the term meant to the authors of the U.S. Constitution.”

Except what the term meant to the authors doesn’t actually carry legal weight. What the term means to the last Supreme Court justices that bothered to rule on it is what actually carries weight.


2 posted on 08/30/2023 10:05:04 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Nobody in authority will ever enforce your interpretation, as evidenced by the 2 Obama terms.


3 posted on 08/30/2023 10:05:12 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

That bridge has been crossed.

Obama was not qualified either.


4 posted on 08/30/2023 10:06:17 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Macho MAGA Man

didnt the founding fathers exempt themselves because they did not meet the nbc requirement?


5 posted on 08/30/2023 10:07:03 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Yes, but...


6 posted on 08/30/2023 10:07:43 AM PDT by lee martell
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Wake me when you’re on the SCOTUS.

In the mean time, this is stupid.


7 posted on 08/30/2023 10:08:09 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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Kamala Harris, Nikki Haley, and Vivek Ramaswamy are not eligible to serve as president of the United States.

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Yeah. Right. And neither is Barack Obama. Oh wait. He DID serve. Which means this NBC business is still a load of garbage.

Why can’t you people wake up to reality?


8 posted on 08/30/2023 10:11:15 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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agreed on the constitutional law, any genuine legal scholar knows this and knows it quite well

I did not know about Haley.
I knew of course about Obama and Harris and Cruz (alas!) and a couple others

thanks for the information


9 posted on 08/30/2023 10:11:52 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Macho MAGA Man

That battle was fought and lost with Obummer.


11 posted on 08/30/2023 10:13:35 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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Can you cite EXACTLY where that definition is in the Constitution? A lot of people just make up stuff.


12 posted on 08/30/2023 10:13:50 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Macho MAGA Man

So, anyone who has a parent born outside the U.S., is not eligible to be president?


14 posted on 08/30/2023 10:15:11 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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This is a great explanation. I’d like to hear a counter-argument, and hear it debated. But this is a very solid explanation.

The only argument I know of is that SCOTUS under Roberts wants little to do with electoral questions. Roberts’ stance of “solve it at the ballot box” (like Obamacare) appears to be the prevailing view.


15 posted on 08/30/2023 10:15:15 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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Kamala Harris, Nikki Haley, and Vivek Ramaswamy are not eligible to serve as president of the United States. Nor are Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.

If they get the votes, they will be sworn in. That's a fact. It's also a fact that none of them will get the votes, but that's beside the point. This topic is a nothing-burger, makes for fun reading for some of the folks here, but that's all.
18 posted on 08/30/2023 10:18:03 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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An argument could be made that Article 14 Section 1's:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

is a clarification of Article 2 Section 1's:

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President"

Of course, we're used to talking about Article 14 in terms of anchor babies not being citizens (because their parents are subject to the authority of their home country). But it's possible to interpret Article 1's "natural born citizen" text in the same light (qualifications of birth citizenship for president isn't based on where you were born, but if your parents were citizens when you were born).

Frankly, I'd rather win the argument with the Article 14 interpretation, both for prez and for birthright citizenship (no anchor babies), than win the argument over the home soil a candidate was born at.

19 posted on 08/30/2023 10:18:32 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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They most certainly “can” be...by virtual of Obama’s election and 8 years as president.


21 posted on 08/30/2023 10:18:44 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: Macho MAGA Man; All

For all you commenting “it’s too late” “doesnt matter now” etc
So if someone does something wrong you just say oh well that wrong thing is now ok to do? Great parenting let alone nation safeguarding.
I dont even care about how S court ruled on some matters related to this, they are not always right, or inline with constitution.
Just because afew people dont stand on principle doesnt mean we should cave too. God is watching to see how many will stand firm or go mushy.


22 posted on 08/30/2023 10:19:21 AM PDT by b4me
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That train left the station in 2008.


24 posted on 08/30/2023 10:21:06 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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The Original Meaning of "Subject to the Jurisdiction" of the United States

Birthright Citizenship and the Constitution

25 posted on 08/30/2023 10:21:26 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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But.....Obama became president so all bets are off.


27 posted on 08/30/2023 10:25:45 AM PDT by mosaicwolf
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It’s a moot point because in a few years it will be impossible to know where anyone is really from.


30 posted on 08/30/2023 10:27:01 AM PDT by bigbob (Q)
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