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Harris, Haley, and Ramaswamy Cannot Be President
The Post Email ^ | August 29, 2023 | Don Frederick

Posted on 08/30/2023 10:02:25 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man

Kamala Harris, Nikki Haley, and Vivek Ramaswamy are not eligible to serve as president of the United States. Nor are Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz. Why? They are not “natural born citizens,” which is one of the presidential requirements outlined in the U.S. Constitution. Making that claim, of course, immediately prompts a response of, “Of course they are natural born citizens! What are you, a racist?” But those who are eager to ridicule and condemn such a statement of ineligibility are merely demonstrating their ignorance of the term natural born citizen. What is important, however, is not what television pundits (or “pundints,” as they often incorrectly refer to themselves) believe the term means, but what the Founding Fathers understood the term to mean when they decreed the following:

“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Probably close to 100 percent of Americans alive today believe the term natural born citizen simply means born in the United States of America. But that is not what the term meant to the authors of the U.S. Constitution.

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They are all not eligible to be president.
1 posted on 08/30/2023 10:02:25 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
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To: Macho MAGA Man

“But that is not what the term meant to the authors of the U.S. Constitution.”

Except what the term meant to the authors doesn’t actually carry legal weight. What the term means to the last Supreme Court justices that bothered to rule on it is what actually carries weight.


2 posted on 08/30/2023 10:05:04 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Nobody in authority will ever enforce your interpretation, as evidenced by the 2 Obama terms.


3 posted on 08/30/2023 10:05:12 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

That bridge has been crossed.

Obama was not qualified either.


4 posted on 08/30/2023 10:06:17 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Macho MAGA Man

didnt the founding fathers exempt themselves because they did not meet the nbc requirement?


5 posted on 08/30/2023 10:07:03 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Yes, but...


6 posted on 08/30/2023 10:07:43 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Wake me when you’re on the SCOTUS.

In the mean time, this is stupid.


7 posted on 08/30/2023 10:08:09 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Kamala Harris, Nikki Haley, and Vivek Ramaswamy are not eligible to serve as president of the United States.

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Yeah. Right. And neither is Barack Obama. Oh wait. He DID serve. Which means this NBC business is still a load of garbage.

Why can’t you people wake up to reality?


8 posted on 08/30/2023 10:11:15 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

agreed on the constitutional law, any genuine legal scholar knows this and knows it quite well

I did not know about Haley.
I knew of course about Obama and Harris and Cruz (alas!) and a couple others

thanks for the information


9 posted on 08/30/2023 10:11:52 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: G Larry
The term "natural born citizen" was selectively ignored for obummer and harris but will be weaponized against any republican. You can count on that.

The dimrats tried to disqualify McCain because he was born in the canal zone although both parents were American citizens and his father was assigned to a US military installation there.

10 posted on 08/30/2023 10:13:34 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Macho MAGA Man

That battle was fought and lost with Obummer.


11 posted on 08/30/2023 10:13:35 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Can you cite EXACTLY where that definition is in the Constitution? A lot of people just make up stuff.


12 posted on 08/30/2023 10:13:50 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Subverting Article 2 Section 1 is not stupid. It’s a Constitutional national security matter.


13 posted on 08/30/2023 10:13:54 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

So, anyone who has a parent born outside the U.S., is not eligible to be president?


14 posted on 08/30/2023 10:15:11 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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This is a great explanation. I’d like to hear a counter-argument, and hear it debated. But this is a very solid explanation.

The only argument I know of is that SCOTUS under Roberts wants little to do with electoral questions. Roberts’ stance of “solve it at the ballot box” (like Obamacare) appears to be the prevailing view.


15 posted on 08/30/2023 10:15:15 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: TheThirdRuffian

It’s this kind of thing that makes our side look like fools arguing over something even if it were true won’t change the facts m.

I haven’t done the research but how many of the very early presidents were not only born here but so were their parents ??

I remember when Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected Governor of California and it was universally recognized he could never run for president


16 posted on 08/30/2023 10:16:20 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Boogieman; Macho MAGA Man

That does not matter to Macho MAGA Man.
He obviously likes to keep beating a dead horse.


17 posted on 08/30/2023 10:17:40 AM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like Desantis build wealth. Trump sacrificed his wealth to serve people. GO TRUMP)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
Kamala Harris, Nikki Haley, and Vivek Ramaswamy are not eligible to serve as president of the United States. Nor are Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.

If they get the votes, they will be sworn in. That's a fact. It's also a fact that none of them will get the votes, but that's beside the point. This topic is a nothing-burger, makes for fun reading for some of the folks here, but that's all.
18 posted on 08/30/2023 10:18:03 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Macho MAGA Man
An argument could be made that Article 14 Section 1's:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

is a clarification of Article 2 Section 1's:

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President"

Of course, we're used to talking about Article 14 in terms of anchor babies not being citizens (because their parents are subject to the authority of their home country). But it's possible to interpret Article 1's "natural born citizen" text in the same light (qualifications of birth citizenship for president isn't based on where you were born, but if your parents were citizens when you were born).

Frankly, I'd rather win the argument with the Article 14 interpretation, both for prez and for birthright citizenship (no anchor babies), than win the argument over the home soil a candidate was born at.

19 posted on 08/30/2023 10:18:32 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: nickcarraway
So, anyone who has a parent born outside the U.S., is not eligible to be president?

If both his parents are US Citizens at the time of HIS birth, I don’t think it’s an issue. I don’t think where HE was born would be an issue either if both parents are US Citizens.
20 posted on 08/30/2023 10:18:39 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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