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Trump Is Unlikely to Abandon Ukraine—and Might Dangerously Escalate the War
The Wall Street Journal ^ | May 9, 2024 | Michael Kimmage

Posted on 05/11/2024 7:40:54 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

If re-elected, would Donald Trump end U.S. support for Ukraine? He certainly sounds as if he would. On the campaign trail, he routinely describes Ukraine as a burden to the U.S. and declares his eagerness to see the war end, which he promises to achieve through negotiations in a mere 24 hours. Trump has also made clear his admiration for Vladimir Putin and dismissive attitude toward the European Union. Many observers worry that once back in office, he would condone, tacitly or even directly, Russia’s efforts to dominate Ukraine.

But it wouldn’t be an easy move for Trump to make, and there is reason to believe that his rhetoric on Ukraine is more political bluster than plan of action.

Trump’s dislike of Ukraine has many sources. It stems in part from his first impeachment trial in 2019, when he was charged with interfering in the 2020 election by putting pressure on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to announce an investigation of Joe Biden. The subsequent war in Ukraine has provided ammunition for one of Trump’s longstanding foreign policy complaints: that the U.S. does too much and Europe too little for Europe’s security. He has even suggested that the U.S. wouldn’t come to the defense of allies who don’t do their share for NATO. And of course there is the politics of aid to Ukraine: Democrats champion Ukraine and revile Russia, inspiring some in Trump’s orbit to do the opposite—to make Russia a synonym for strong leadership and to decry Ukraine as corrupt and parasitical.

Against this backdrop, it is instructive to scrutinize Trump’s actual record on Russia and Ukraine. Much of what he said about the two countries on the campaign trail in 2016 had little or no bearing on the actions he took as president.

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To: Allegra

You think we are in the winning position to dictate terms? Amazing, really amazing


21 posted on 05/11/2024 8:21:55 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: MinorityRepublican

Trump’s not going to put US troops in Ukraine (the only escalation short of nukes left). He is not going to further fund an unwinnable war. To believe any of this silliness you’d have to think Trump is stupid enough to believe this catastrophe can salvaged. No one is that stupid, especially not Trump. He will stop it immediately with negotiations.


22 posted on 05/11/2024 8:24:39 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Michael, how would you know? Pure unadulterated, opinionated crap.
23 posted on 05/11/2024 8:25:46 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: MinorityRepublican

3 years - trillions of dollars and they’re worried Trump, the madman will “escalate” the war? Retards…


24 posted on 05/11/2024 8:26:38 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: MinorityRepublican
"there is reason to believe that his rhetoric on Ukraine is more political bluster than plan of action."

True.

"Trump's dislike of Ukraine has many sources"

Trump is not anti-Ukraine. This is an illusion created by both the left and right for their own ends.

It was the State Department, Col. Vindmann, and Sen. Schiff who came up with the impeachment, not Ukraine. Zelensky's government backed Trump's version of their phone call used to impeach him. Facts conveniently forgotten to fit current narratives.

Trump wants the war to end, and Europe to own up to its own national defense priorities on their own. He does not want Europe depending on the US while micromanaging how we defend them. He's following Reagan in that being militarily strong is a good way to avoid war. Tyrants go after the weak, not the strong.

Putin views Europe and the US as weak. Trump wants to get to strength, then give Putin a deal he can't refuse.

25 posted on 05/11/2024 8:31:15 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: hardspunned
He will stop it immediately with negotiations.

Putin will demand Kharkiv, Odessa and Kherson to end the war. Which will result in a landlocked Ukraine.

Putin knows that the day the war ends, NATO is going to send NATO troops to secure Kyiv.

26 posted on 05/11/2024 8:31:34 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Mount Athos

Research what Trump has to say about it, then.


27 posted on 05/11/2024 8:34:33 PM PDT by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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To: MinorityRepublican
Oh no! Trump doesn't let the DC uniparty establishment do his thinking!

We can defend the Europe of today as they insist, but that Europe -- including Russia -- is dying due to mass immigration, Leftist ideology, demographic decline, corruption, and slow economic growth.

Can Putin and Russia be dealt with and pressured into a reasonably good deal over Ukraine? In time, Trump can almost certainly do it -- a turn of events that the DC uniparty cannot prescribe.

28 posted on 05/11/2024 8:40:31 PM PDT by Rockingham (`)
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To: Williams

That would eventually make Russia go broke on lost oil revenue. No money, no Uke war.


29 posted on 05/11/2024 8:44:36 PM PDT by desertsolitaire (Doomed to be Cassandra-like?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Why do you think Putin endorsed Biden?


30 posted on 05/11/2024 8:48:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Judge Bean

Israel has plenty of American weapons in our forward deployed caches.


31 posted on 05/11/2024 8:56:22 PM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: Skywise

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


33 posted on 05/11/2024 9:01:21 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: MinorityRepublican

Paywall. I’m not the fed. Nationaldebtclock.org


34 posted on 05/11/2024 9:20:05 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: MinorityRepublican

They’re trying desperately to undermine Trump’s support from the right.


35 posted on 05/11/2024 9:34:30 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Williams
"You will at some point see most of our pro Putin and supposedly anti Biden friends here, line up to oppose Trump."

Is there any lie that you will not post Biden stooge?

36 posted on 05/12/2024 1:31:56 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Anyone with half a brain realizes Ukraine is a SHTF event in the making. It won’t matter who is President.

The reality is Biden is going to screw it up leaving the United State no other choice in Ukraine and the Middle East.


37 posted on 05/12/2024 1:40:15 AM PDT by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon (1/21-))
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To: metmom

“ They’re trying desperately to undermine Trump’s support from the right.”
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EXACTAMUNDO!


38 posted on 05/12/2024 2:00:57 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Michael Kimmage has to write “What If” articles about Trump while the smarter writers at WSJ get to write about business. It must suck being a boot licking toadie.


39 posted on 05/12/2024 3:28:50 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Another “journalist” pulling a story out of his ass. How do pathetically desperate they are now. Yesterday’s rally of 80,000-100,000 will be a huge trigger, and we’re gonna see a lot more of this nonsense.


40 posted on 05/12/2024 3:37:29 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Navarro didn't kill himself.)
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