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Granted, Nirvana revived rock, but the band has Britney to answer for too
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| Monday, April 5, 2004
| Aidin Vaziri
Posted on 04/05/2004 6:36:54 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod
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To: qam1
One for the Gen-X ping list, perhaps?
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posted on
04/05/2004 6:55:10 PM PDT
by
KangarooJacqui
(I FReep because I can...)
To: KneelBeforeZod
I'll get flamed bad for this.
Nirvana killed rock.
Most grunge to me sounds like a bunch of woe is me weak, feel sorry for myself, whiners with boring guitar sounds. Before grunge, most rock was about partying, sex, drugs, drinking, or rock and roll.
Sure, sincerity and emotions are great for poetry slams at Laundromats, but nobody wants to hear it when they're driving back from work at 5 p.m. on Friday. They want to crank "Unskinny Bop."
LOL. Exactly, although "Nothing but a good time" is better.
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posted on
04/05/2004 6:55:26 PM PDT
by
Dan from Michigan
("My governor don't got the answer")
To: KangarooJacqui; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; tortoise; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; malakhi; ...
I was wondering when a Nirvana post would show up.
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posted on
04/05/2004 7:02:04 PM PDT
by
qam1
(Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
To: Dan from Michigan; cyborg
To be honest with you the whole Nirvana thing tears me up. Why? I abhor grunge and think it is a weird medley between the moaning of a social anxiety disorder induced moan and tomcats in heat screeching for the attention of a female cat (and with some scratchy guitar riffs reminiscent of sasquatch gurgles sounding in the background). And i will not even start on the attires grunge gave birth to (let it suffice to say that i lean toward GQ, hence dirty cargo pants really do not make my cup of tea).
However, with all that said, I love Nirvana! Yeah .....i even like David Grohl and the Foo Fighters (and there is a song by the Queens of the Stone Age that i even like). In essence Nirvana and Nirvana-esque stuff (as long as it is directly related to them ....hence wannabe bands get tossed out).
Ay caramba!
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posted on
04/05/2004 7:21:42 PM PDT
by
spetznaz
(Nuclear missiles: The ultimate Phallic symbol.)
To: KneelBeforeZod
How could you slam Adam and The Ants? I loved Goody Two-Shoes.
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posted on
04/05/2004 7:24:26 PM PDT
by
mean lunch lady
(Better living through Chemistry.)
To: spetznaz
I used to listen to 'woe is me, I'm wearing black and I cut myself' music. Eh...it was okay for a while but it did get annoying after a while LOL.
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posted on
04/05/2004 7:30:28 PM PDT
by
cyborg
(Frankenfreude radio death watch has commenced)
To: Dan from Michigan
Nirvana killed rock. Agreed. The reason they were so huge back then was because they were different, but with the passage of time, it's clear that the whole grunge movement was worse than what it replaced.
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To: TonyRo76
consider me a relic. Bob Seger, is that you?
"Call me a relic call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned say I'm over the hill. Today's music ain't got the same soul. I like that old time Rock and Roll"
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posted on
04/05/2004 7:51:32 PM PDT
by
Dan from Michigan
("My governor don't got the answer")
To: cyborg
You mean I should give that up, too? :)
Ah, maturity... who needs it?
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posted on
04/05/2004 8:01:16 PM PDT
by
Pan_Yans Wife
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To: KneelBeforeZod
Rot.
Grunge didn't start with Nirvana any more than the Beatles were the first rock and roll band of the 1960s.
The suits at the labels, stations, and networks largely purged rock and roll of the rock and roll in the late 1950s (when Little Richard retired, Jerry Lee Lewis came home in shame, Elvis was drafted, Eddie Cochran, Buddy Holly, and others died early, Chuck Berry was brought up on the Mann Act, etc.). They were all replaced by pop poster boy crooners. Even genuine rock and rollers like Johnny Burnette were castrated by the executives.
Nirvana was the package used to sell the new sound to the masses just as Elvis and the Beatles had been the faces who took their respective sounds out of the underground.
There was a quick embracement of grunge by the square world but they only ever actually acknowleged a handful of bands (and genuine pioneers like Mudhoney never became household names or chart toppers).
The death of Kurt allowed the squares to supress rock and roll energy once again. They replaced it with pop stars. Pop music didn't begin with Britney. The 80s gave us Debbie Gibson, Tiffany, the Backstreet Boys, etc. The 70s had it's own pop pap.
Meanwhile rock and roll continues on.
It took 20+ years for the Ramones to get any accolades from the mainstream. So it goes.
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posted on
04/05/2004 8:01:18 PM PDT
by
weegee
(No blood for ratings. CNN supressed reports of torture & murder in Iraq to keep their Baghdad bureau)
To: TonyRo76
I actually liked Nirvana, Though I think their stature is way over rated, They were not Gen-X's Beatles nor was "Smells like Teen Spirit" (Which I don't particularly like) our "Stairway to Heaven".
And yes I can't stand the clones that folowed that whine instead of singing.
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posted on
04/05/2004 8:01:19 PM PDT
by
qam1
(Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
To: Pan_Yans Wife
LOL! I still listen to modern rock but grunge has had it's day in the sun already. Kurt Cobain could have great, even legend but now he's dead. How sad.
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posted on
04/05/2004 8:02:55 PM PDT
by
cyborg
(Frankenfreude radio death watch has commenced)
To: cyborg
Linkin Park is interesting. Better than Nirvana... I never really was into Nirvana. I guess I missed the opportunity of mourning with the rest of the generation.
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posted on
04/05/2004 8:04:31 PM PDT
by
Pan_Yans Wife
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
I'm glad I grew up with the 'brat pack' and Revenge of the Nerds rather than generation X death culture. The first Woodstock was great but the rest went downhill LOL
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posted on
04/05/2004 8:06:43 PM PDT
by
cyborg
(Frankenfreude radio death watch has commenced)
To: spetznaz
See the movie "Hype" about the Seattle music scene in the 1990s. Grunge "fashion" was a hoax but it came with the "crediblity" that gave the corporations something to market.
Poison 13 was another little ol' band from Texas (Austin). They put out several albums and had a quality that spawned immitators. They were a departure from the speed metal thrashcore sounds of the mid-1980s punk scene. Everything slowed down.
They covered blues songs, 70s punk, drunken party songs from the 1960s, etc. Everything from Joy Division to the Troggs, Richard Hell to Suzi Quatro, the Sonics to Buffy St Marie,
Sub Pop considered them enough of an influence on grunge that they issued a best of compilation.
1. One Step Closer
2. Seventh Son
3. My Biggest Mistake
4. Spoonful
5. Out on the Streets
6. Big City Lights
7. Die For Me
8. Codine
9. Grip on My Heart
10. Justice
11. When I Was Young
12. Blank Generation
13. Hellbound Train
14. First You Dream, And Then You Die
15. Strange Movies
16. Can't Cry
17. Parchment Farm
18. She's the One That's Got It
19. What a Way to Die
20. I'm Dangerous Tonight
21. Love Me
22. Strychnine
23. Warsaw
Rumor has it that Monkeywrench was formed to record more Poison 13 songs (even though the bands don't really sound the same at all). Monkeywrench is sort of a grunge supergroup.
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posted on
04/05/2004 8:15:35 PM PDT
by
weegee
(No blood for ratings. CNN supressed reports of torture & murder in Iraq to keep their Baghdad bureau)
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