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To: qam1
One for the Gen-X ping list, perhaps?
4 posted on
04/05/2004 6:55:10 PM PDT by
KangarooJacqui
(I FReep because I can...)
To: KneelBeforeZod
I'll get flamed bad for this.
Nirvana killed rock.
Most grunge to me sounds like a bunch of woe is me weak, feel sorry for myself, whiners with boring guitar sounds. Before grunge, most rock was about partying, sex, drugs, drinking, or rock and roll.
Sure, sincerity and emotions are great for poetry slams at Laundromats, but nobody wants to hear it when they're driving back from work at 5 p.m. on Friday. They want to crank "Unskinny Bop."
LOL. Exactly, although "Nothing but a good time" is better.
5 posted on
04/05/2004 6:55:26 PM PDT by
Dan from Michigan
("My governor don't got the answer")
To: KneelBeforeZod
How could you slam Adam and The Ants? I loved Goody Two-Shoes.
8 posted on
04/05/2004 7:24:26 PM PDT by
mean lunch lady
(Better living through Chemistry.)
To: KneelBeforeZod
Rot.
Grunge didn't start with Nirvana any more than the Beatles were the first rock and roll band of the 1960s.
The suits at the labels, stations, and networks largely purged rock and roll of the rock and roll in the late 1950s (when Little Richard retired, Jerry Lee Lewis came home in shame, Elvis was drafted, Eddie Cochran, Buddy Holly, and others died early, Chuck Berry was brought up on the Mann Act, etc.). They were all replaced by pop poster boy crooners. Even genuine rock and rollers like Johnny Burnette were castrated by the executives.
Nirvana was the package used to sell the new sound to the masses just as Elvis and the Beatles had been the faces who took their respective sounds out of the underground.
There was a quick embracement of grunge by the square world but they only ever actually acknowleged a handful of bands (and genuine pioneers like Mudhoney never became household names or chart toppers).
The death of Kurt allowed the squares to supress rock and roll energy once again. They replaced it with pop stars. Pop music didn't begin with Britney. The 80s gave us Debbie Gibson, Tiffany, the Backstreet Boys, etc. The 70s had it's own pop pap.
Meanwhile rock and roll continues on.
It took 20+ years for the Ramones to get any accolades from the mainstream. So it goes.
15 posted on
04/05/2004 8:01:18 PM PDT by
weegee
(No blood for ratings. CNN supressed reports of torture & murder in Iraq to keep their Baghdad bureau)
To: KneelBeforeZod
Nirvana didn't revive rock... it killed it.
23 posted on
04/05/2004 10:01:52 PM PDT by
thoughtomator
(Voting Bush because there is no reasonable alternative)
To: KneelBeforeZod
... For Courtney Love: [snip] But instead of fading into obscurity along with L7 and Bikini Kill, now we're forced to read about her antics every week in "Teen People." Like Teen People would ever get it right anyway. If not Courtney it would be Britney or even Brabra Streisand moaning about President Bush.
...For Guitars: [snip] But then Nirvana made guitars popular again, opening the gates for bands like the White Stripes and Nickelback to exist now.
It may have been written in the spirit of satire but good satire has it's origins in truth. The White Stripes would still exist. They get their lead from Billy Childish, not Kurt Cobain. Just because American fools don't know who Billy is, he still is celebrated in England and elsewhere for having released 100 albums since 1978.
25 posted on
04/05/2004 10:10:27 PM PDT by
weegee
(No blood for ratings. CNN supressed reports of torture & murder in Iraq to keep their Baghdad bureau)
To: KneelBeforeZod
You have to give Cobain credit for revitalizing Weird Al's career after a three-year absence!
To: KneelBeforeZod
I was a Freshman in High School when Nevermind came out and I must say that to me it was a welcome relief. Up until that point most of people I knew listened to rap and that had suddenly changed. And there was finally an alternative to rap that wasn't the totally tacky hair bands I'd struggled to like in Junior High.
I don't know. Sometimes with music you've just got to be the right age in the right time and place to get it.
To: KneelBeforeZod
May I add that one of things I love about FreeRepublic is that's the sort of place where you can find the most unlikely people writing short dissertations on the history of popular music inlcuding the impact of various rather obscure acts.
To: KneelBeforeZod
I was sick of Nirvana before the end of 1991. Talk about something that got old fast! Nirvana was just predictable and whiny.
I'm still into much of the music that I was listening to when Nirvana came out: Testament, Metallica (before they sucked), Slayer, Megadeth, Overkill, Pantera, Nuclear Assault (mutants for nukes!), MOD, etc. You know, the classics! I've recently picked up on System of a Down and Fear Factory also.
Give me a hard beat and a loud, fast guitar any day.
48 posted on
04/06/2004 12:56:17 PM PDT by
T.Smith
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