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Linux or Win XP... what to do...
Me | 06/14/2004 | Self

Posted on 06/14/2004 6:50:00 AM PDT by Tuxedo

A friend stopped by yesterday and showed me the Knoppix CD and introduced me to Linux. Now I am very computer savvy when it comes to Windows XP and hardware, but not so much with Linux. Truth is, I loved what I saw! So, now I am thinking of switching or at least going dual boot. My dilemmas are that I usea lot of mapping software (Microsoft Streets and Trips, Garmin Mapsource, Delorme Street Atlas and Topo USA), and I do not know how these would run under Linux. For the Linux users out there, what would be the best approach? My wife uses AOL IM, and I see that Knoppix provides a 3rd party version that ports in well. Any advice would be appreciated. Laptop is a P3-1200 with 40GB drive, 256MB RAM, desktop is P4-2.53GHz with 100 GB drive, 512MB RAM.

While I liked Knoppix, would prefer to run off of a hard disk instead of a CD. How do you test for Linux compatibility of Windows apps?

Any and all feedback welcome!


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1 posted on 06/14/2004 6:50:02 AM PDT by Tuxedo
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To: rdb3

holler ping


2 posted on 06/14/2004 6:53:39 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Tuxedo
How do you test for Linux compatibility of Windows apps?

Name the specific applications you are talking about.

3 posted on 06/14/2004 6:55:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Tuxedo

Well, I've had XP Pro on my two computers for the past six months and have yet to have a lock-up. I can't imagine why I would go elsewhere.


4 posted on 06/14/2004 6:55:33 AM PDT by RichardW
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To: Tuxedo; Arkinsaw

i run vmware for those apps that don't run in linux


5 posted on 06/14/2004 6:55:49 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Tuxedo

clearly, dual boot would be a good idea for you; linux has available excellent boot managers which will allow this, and the linux kernel allows you to read windows partitions.

running your windows software under linux is problematic. there are a couple of commercial virtual-machine programs which allow you to run real windows under linux; there is also wine, which is a translation layer that emulates windows system calls and that allows the use of many windows applications directly under linux. whether the apps you use are among those that run well with wine is a matter of trial and error.

linux is not subject to the kinds of security flaws which have nearly brought down the internet due to the vulnerability of windows, and linux distributors are very good at staying on top of security issues when they do arise.

maybe the best thing would be for you to run the knoppix live cd for a little while and see how well linux suits your needs. i've used nothing but linux for more than six years now and wouldn't dream of using anything else.

hope this is of help.


6 posted on 06/14/2004 6:56:10 AM PDT by dep (Ense Petit Placidam Sub Libertate Qvietem)
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To: Tuxedo

Just load it on a psare computer, and see what it does, or doesn't do.


7 posted on 06/14/2004 6:56:16 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: Tuxedo

Go with a linux internet server!
http://www.spadata.com click on the computers in the top center and watch the presentation


8 posted on 06/14/2004 6:56:36 AM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: Tuxedo

There is software called vmware that lets you run windows inside of linux (or linux inside of windows if you choose to go that direction). Dual booting is another possibility, but that is awkward if you want to go back and forth between one system and the other.

My experience is that linux makes computing fun again. Go for it!


9 posted on 06/14/2004 6:56:39 AM PDT by econprof
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To: Tuxedo

Sorry, meant spare...


10 posted on 06/14/2004 6:56:52 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: Tuxedo
I'm posting here because I figure I will get some help from those in the know that post here.

How do I get my computer to remember my usernames and passwords?

11 posted on 06/14/2004 6:58:17 AM PDT by eleni121 (Mt. Rushmore welcomes the Gipper!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Specific Apps: Delorme Topo USA, Microsoft Streets and Trips 2004, Garmin Mapsource, Ahead Nero, and Shareaza (which is now open source). The rest are Microsoft Office XP, but those appear to be compatible with Open Office except for some font issues.


12 posted on 06/14/2004 6:58:23 AM PDT by Tuxedo (Ronald Reagan .... man... myth... legend... friend.)
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To: Tuxedo
FreeBSD is much more stable than Linux (you'll find out what I mean when you go to upgrade your Linux installation, or install a program that requires a specific kernel version), if you are computer-savvy enough to deal with a text-mode installation program. If you do enjoy desktop Linux, though - I highly recommend you check out Lycoris. It's as close to "Windows XP" as any Linux distribution has ever come, with respect to user friendliness.
13 posted on 06/14/2004 6:59:23 AM PDT by detsaoT (insert hot-button issue here.)
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To: Tuxedo

Linux is NOT a better Microsoft Windows. It is its own product. Linux comes with its own suite of software. If you have Windows-specific software, run it in Windows.


14 posted on 06/14/2004 7:00:56 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: eleni121

Write them down and keep the list nearby. It's safer.


15 posted on 06/14/2004 7:02:14 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Tuxedo
Make the transition easy on yourself, go dual boot.
Then stick to buying new LINUX compatible software until you don't need Microsoft anymore.

SO9

16 posted on 06/14/2004 7:04:50 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: All

I'm bumping this simply because it's interesting.

i use a Mac, but have wondered about trying Linux


17 posted on 06/14/2004 7:05:30 AM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: AppyPappy

I agree it is not a better MS WinXP, but after dealing with a PC infested with adware from hell and continuous security patches from MS, I am getting a little sick of it all. My first look at Linux was way back with the early versions of X-Windows, which looked really clunky. Knoppix blew me away, and from what I understand, there are even better Linux-based systems out there. Have also heard of FreeBSD but know nothing about it and how it differs from Linux. A majority of my friends have been running Linux for years now, and now I have to ask what have I been missing? The option of several browsers and e-mail progs (Outlook sucks) and lack of worry abut viruses and adware/spyware/barfware is what is luring me to the world of open source.


18 posted on 06/14/2004 7:06:46 AM PDT by Tuxedo (Ronald Reagan .... man... myth... legend... friend.)
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To: Tuxedo
I would SERIOUSLY suggest you run a dual boot system. I set up such a system to try out Linux. See if you can allocate 10 megs or more to Linux. Install whatever version you want. Play with it. Try running the programs you'd like to run.

After many months of having a dual boot system, I hardly use Linux anymore. Windows XP does what I need it to do

19 posted on 06/14/2004 7:07:16 AM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: Tuxedo
First of all, there are probably Linux applications that do some or all of the functions that the apps you mention do. The way to find out is do a few Google searches.

If you really, really, really must run all those Windows apss under Linux, I would recommend Win4Lin.

You will need a copy of Windows 98 to install inside of Linux. I have used Win4Lin and it works quite well. It does not support higher versions of Windows, but all those apps you mention should run under Windows 98.

WINE is an open source Linux program that allows you to run Windows applications. It works reasonably well, from what I understand, but it can be difficult to configure and it will not run all Windows apps.

Those are my two recommendations.

20 posted on 06/14/2004 7:12:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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