[A CA Guy]

I agree that the enemies of Israel have had quite a bit of the wrath of God, but America is doing nothing that is against the good of Israel and any pull out Israel has made has been with their approval. So, my point is they made their choices.

Let us not forget that even the Jews were run around the sand for 40 years or so because they have been known to disappoint God now and then themselves. The Jews are not exemot from God either kiddo!

Where human and we are clueless as to end times, rapture and anyting else that will happen.
When God comes he comes and we are to be surprised by the timeing, but in a constant state of readiness as I understand it.

Have a good weekend.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

I agree with you on most points, and yes, even Jesus ( Yeshua ) said that " NO MAN KNOWS THE HOUR, NOT EVEN THE SON " .... none of us know the end.
All I was saying , is what ( not just that one scripture ) that Bible verse said, in that, those who bless Israel, either individually or collectively, or on a National scale, will be blessed, and if you curse Israel ( a good example in todays world, is Cindy Sheman .. opps, Sheehan ) ......
I have to disagree, ( at least we can agree to disagree, but, at least in a way were there is rational discussion ).
Israel is reluctantly pulling out of Gaza, in hopes of MAYBE that might find peace with the Palestinians or the Arabs.
I think, Israel is doing something that they themselves might not have done, but, doing it by the advise of a old friend ( in which, is misguided ) .
I don't know, maybe I could be wrong, but, my guilt feelings tells me, that this may not be the right way to go for Israel to pull out of Gaza , just to placate Israels enemies.
Only time will tell.
The Arabs, Palestinians have already said that they are still not satisfied with Israel's pulling out of Gaza, and now ? that are focusing in on Jerusalem , but, in reality ? other nations, The Palestinians, and those who hate the Jews and Israel want the destruction of Israel and the Jews, and that ? is their ultimate goal and objective.