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That's Entertainment!(The Book of Daniel, Brokeback Mountain, End of the Spear)
Central Baptist Seminary ^ | 01/20/06 | Dr. Kevin T. Bauder

Posted on 01/21/2006 9:18:48 AM PST by bulldozer

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1 posted on 01/21/2006 9:18:50 AM PST by bulldozer
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To: bulldozer

This is incredible. For the last month, we have been saying to everyone to go see this movie in droves because it is a Christian film. Now with everyone ready to go, it is anti-Christian. Why are we finding this out now when it may be too late. This could end up being a tragic situation if everyone does not get to read this post before flocking to the movie in droves.


2 posted on 01/21/2006 9:22:29 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: bulldozer

As long as the left endorses the gay agenda and is anti-religion, they will remain the minority.


3 posted on 01/21/2006 9:22:59 AM PST by Always Right
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To: napscoordinator

Obviously I am talking ONLY about End of the Spear. Their have been many posts about this movie being so Christian.


4 posted on 01/21/2006 9:23:33 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: bulldozer

So, does Allen play a homosexual in the film? I don't think so. He's an actor. He acts the role he is given in the film.

The film stands for itself. What Allen says outside of the film is irrelevant. It is the character he plays in the film that is relevant.

Gay actors play straight roles. Straight actors play gay roles. That's their job.

We should ignore this entirely, and let the film speak for itself. From all accounts, it's a good depiction of what actually happened.


5 posted on 01/21/2006 9:26:43 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: bulldozer

You might also want to look into your spelling on the link at the end of the post. I don't think there's anything like the "babtist" church or any "babtist" seminary.


6 posted on 01/21/2006 9:28:25 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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Sorry about the typo in misspelling Baptist.


8 posted on 01/21/2006 9:35:00 AM PST by bulldozer
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To: Motherbear

You can hardly blame the producer for what happens on a show like Larry King. If anything, blame his marketing people, who should have known better than to use their star on the publicity circuit if he is an activist. I agree with the poster who pointed out that this is simply a gay actor talking about his own thing, putting his own spin on the film, which may not be present in the producer's or writer's intent, and the film should stand on its own. Just bad publicist judgment. Sort of like Tom Cruise's sister, only in that case, her product was also wacky, whereas this film may be the real deal.


9 posted on 01/21/2006 9:37:36 AM PST by Inkie (Attn Dems: Loose Lips Sink Ships -- but hey, I guess that's your goal))
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To: Motherbear

"Unfortunately, the self professed Christian producer of this film used poor discernment in giving a platform to a homsexual activist."

It doesn't matter. The film is not about homosexuality. It is about missionaries trying to reach primitive tribes. It's a great story.

Calls to boycott this film are just plain stupid. There are few enough films that Christians can lay claim to as representative of the work they do. This one may actually be pretty good.

What Allen does or says outside the film is completely irrelevant. He is an actor. He played a role. I'm sure he played it well.

If calls for boycotts cripple yet another movie that depicts Christianity in a positive way, it only means that Christians will have fewer movies like that in the future. It's already difficult enough for Christian-themed movies to get made, distributed, and shown. Why make things worse.

Most people will never hear Allen say anything at all. He's promoting himself and his homosexuality. Lots of people will see his portrayal of a dedicated Christian missionary.


10 posted on 01/21/2006 9:39:29 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: bulldozer
I can't wait to see The End of the Spear. It's a fascinating story, regardless of an actor's off-screen life.

As for protesting Chad Allen, this author better be consistent. He must never, ever see a Christian film that features actors who drink too much, have premarital or extramarital sex, lie, steal, or cheat on their taxes. In other words, he must never, ever see another "Christian film" again.

11 posted on 01/21/2006 9:43:07 AM PST by inkling
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As for protesting Chad Allen, this author better be consistent. He must never, ever see a Christian film that features actors who drink too much, have premarital or extramarital sex, lie, steal, or cheat on their taxes. In other words, he must never, ever see another "Christian film" again.

You are missing the point. If an actor is activily using his role in a movie as a platform to normalize drinking, premarital sex, lying, cheating on taxes within the Christian church then this would be cause for concern. Plus we are talking about an actor in a Christian movie.

Chad Allen is the poster boy of the gay activist movement to normalize homosexuality in our society.

12 posted on 01/21/2006 9:51:54 AM PST by bulldozer
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To: bulldozer

Thank you so much for shedding light on this. Nate Saint & Jim Elliot went to the same college as me. I even heard Elizabeth Elliot speak in chapel when I was a student. How sad that something I have been looking forward to doesn't even contain the gospel these men went to share in Ecuador.

Wonder what story was more important to tell? Guess I'll never find out.


14 posted on 01/21/2006 9:53:50 AM PST by Apple Blossom (...around here, city hall is something of a between meals snack.)
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To: Motherbear

"I never suggested a boycott, but this goes beyond bad publicity. If the producer had better discernment, this homosexual would not be out there spreading a false gospel on the producer's own platform.
He used bad judgment. How can you not agree with that?"

Who used bad judgment? Allen? Sure he did. The producer in hiring Allen for the part? I don't know. I haven't seen the film yet. Maybe Allen was the perfect person to play the role.

My point is that most people did not hear Allen on this television program. Most will hear nothing at all about this. The movie will stand on its own. I hope it's a good one.


15 posted on 01/21/2006 9:54:39 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: napscoordinator
This film glorifies God and tells the story of the missionaries powerfully and with dignity. The following Christian Leaders have actually SEEN the film, and know about Chad, and here is what they have said about the film.

"I have never cried more during a movie in my life. It took me about an hour to recover. You are going to see authentic Christianity in action. It is very important that you see End of the Spear - Ted Haggard, Senior Pastor of New Life Church, Author

"A wonderful movie about love and forgiveness...a story that will challenge your faith...Go see it and tell everybody you know." Dr. Joyce Meyer, Author and Speaker

End of the Spearis one of the most entertaining and inspiring stories that I have ever seen. I recommend it to everyone." Joel Osteen, Senior Pastor, Lakewood Church

End of the Spear isn't just a good movie, but an EXCELLENT one! It's my hope that tens of millions of young people around the world will see this riveting movie and that it will be used by God to launch a million missionaries who will perform even greater exploits for Jesus Christ. Take your children and a couple of their friends and experience this compelling story." - Dr. Dennis Rainey, President, Family Life

"Unconditional love and forgiveness have never been more vividly portrayed than in "End of the Spear." - Dick Rolfe, President, Dove Foundation

(Steve) Saint, who has befriended Allen, hopes that the film will help people see “that all of us have tragic, shattered relationships in our lives and that God is the one who can put them back together in incredible ways.”

“If Mincaye and I can be very close friends, be family, love each other, and my kids and my grandchildren can love Mincaye and his family -– if that can happen out of the tragic relationship that we started with –- then maybe it’ll give people hope that their strained relationships can also be reconciled and that, better yet, God can be part of the answer,” Saint said in an interview with the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association’s Decision magazine.STEVE SAINT, son of Nate Saint

Decision Magazine (Billy Graham)

Jerry Falwell

Focus on the Family

If you need more confirmation, Click here then hit "enter" and "endorsements.

16 posted on 01/21/2006 9:55:09 AM PST by I'm ALL Right! (Love God, Love Others.)
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To: bulldozer
You are missing the point.

I disagree. I think you are missing the point entirely.

17 posted on 01/21/2006 9:56:31 AM PST by I'm ALL Right! (Love God, Love Others.)
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To: napscoordinator

So the lead actor is gay, whoop dee-doo-doo. So was Auden.


18 posted on 01/21/2006 9:56:35 AM PST by RightWingAtheist (Creationism Is Not Conservative!)
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To: Apple Blossom

ping to Post #16.


19 posted on 01/21/2006 9:57:56 AM PST by I'm ALL Right! (Love God, Love Others.)
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To: MineralMan
What Allen says outside of the film is irrelevant.

Sadly, this is not true. We don't live in a vaccuum. If our kids want to see this film, and then learn more about the actors, where do we stop them? Where does the information flow end? If they believe the story on the screen, they will likely believe the story being told on any screen, TV, etc.

20 posted on 01/21/2006 9:58:23 AM PST by Apple Blossom (...around here, city hall is something of a between meals snack.)
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