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That's Entertainment!(The Book of Daniel, Brokeback Mountain, End of the Spear)
Central Baptist Seminary ^ | 01/20/06 | Dr. Kevin T. Bauder

Posted on 01/21/2006 9:18:48 AM PST by bulldozer

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To: I'm ALL Right!

Thanks for posting those brief reviews. It is sad that people are so wrapped up in the sexuality of the actor who plays this role that they will not see the movie. That seems to me to be hypocritical.

If the telling of a fine story, as this one is, is the goal, then the personal life of an ACTOR in the film is irrelevant. The film stands on its own merits. Most people will never hear of this ACTOR's off-screen life. Why would they care? On-screen he is Nate Saint, a Christian hero. That is who the movie-goers will see.

Homosexuality may be a sin. It may be abhorrent to many. It is not depicted in this film. There is no homosexuality in the film. There is a homosexual actor playing a Christian missionary whose dedication cost him his life. Feh!

Jesus would go to this film, I'm quite sure. Pity that many Christians won't.


21 posted on 01/21/2006 10:00:08 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: bulldozer
I believe that the group of Christians surrounding this young man with Christ's love did great good for the kingdom and for Allen's salvation. As a Christian, I welcome those relationships as a perfect opportunity to witness.

Why a strong group of Christians is terrified about a sinner entering their midst is just beyond me. The devil is the one who should be worried.

22 posted on 01/21/2006 10:00:42 AM PST by inkling
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To: inkling

As for 'End of the Spear', there are two issues that bother me.

Number one, what self-respecting Christian father would risk depriving his children of one the two most prized posessions of their youth? If this aspect of the movie is supposed to impress me of Christian values, it will fail miserably.

Number two, this movie is going to play right into the hands of the left who will champion it's message for their twisted purposes. It's their claim already that we should not stike out against terrorists as this multiplies terrorism, their claim not mine.

To fail to strike out against terrorists would be suicide. None the less the Steven Spielbergs of the world think movies like Munich tell us what we should know.

The end of 'End of the Spear' may be worth the journey. I do see some glaring problems with the flick.


23 posted on 01/21/2006 10:01:11 AM PST by DoughtyOne (01/11/06: Ted Kennedy becomes the designated driver and moral spokesperson for the Democrat party.)
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To: bulldozer
It offers a trivialized and comic depiction of the Lord Jesus Himself.

Probably the most offensive aspect of this brainless drivel. I don't know if it's liberals' false egalitarianism that leads them to redefine the Almighty as the God Dude, or if it's their fear of moral inferiority. But I am so sick of Our Savior being depicted as some surfer at the beach. It's a characterization that hardly bespeaks Splendor and Glory.

24 posted on 01/21/2006 10:03:35 AM PST by IronJack
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To: inkling
As for protesting Chad Allen, this author better be consistent. He must never, ever see a Christian film that features actors who drink too much, have premarital or extramarital sex, lie, steal, or cheat on their taxes. In other words, he must never, ever see another "Christian film" again.

That's quite a stretch. A reasonable person could see the difference between a person who sins and a person that promotes sinning. We're all sinners, but we don't all brag about our defects like it's God who's wrong.
25 posted on 01/21/2006 10:03:56 AM PST by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: Apple Blossom

"Sadly, this is not true. We don't live in a vaccuum. If our kids want to see this film, and then learn more about the actors, where do we stop them? Where does the information flow end? If they believe the story on the screen, they will likely believe the story being told on any screen, TV, etc."




Oh, my! Your kids are going to find out there are homosexuals? They're going to find out that some of them act in movies? How horrible.

You'd keep them from seeing a film with a powerful Christian message because they might find out that the actor who plays Nate is a homosexual? How bizarre!

You'd do better to teach them that actors portray roles and that the actors' lives have nothing to do with the roles they portray on the screen. The movie stands for itself.

Your kids are not so stupid as to fail to understand what you teach them. They will gain from the film an appreciation for the dedication needed to spread Christianity. If they discover the actor is a homosexual, they will learn that actors portray all sorts of roles by pretending to be someone they are not.

I don't get it. Does homosexuality scare you so much that you are going to attempt to prevent your kids from even learning that it exists? They won't thank you for that when they're adults.


26 posted on 01/21/2006 10:04:28 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Motherbear
Ping to post #16.

Incidentally, the lead actor in "Chariots of Fire" was gay...died of AIDS. That did not diminish the movie or the story, though.

How about using a gay actor to portray Gandolf in "Lord of the Rings". Tolkien was a Christian...nobody had an issue with that. Very interesting.

It's about the story, the message, and not the actor, who did a good job, by the way.

Chad Allen had an opportunity to attend bible studies every day (on the set of EOTS). Chad was shown unconditional love and acceptance by Christians on this project. Where else would that have happened to him? Who knows what God intends to do with him, or through his experience here.

27 posted on 01/21/2006 10:05:19 AM PST by I'm ALL Right! (Love God, Love Others.)
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To: napscoordinator
Who have you been listening to? I have never heard it described as anything but sleaze and scorn.
28 posted on 01/21/2006 10:05:34 AM PST by boomop1
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To: boomop1

"Who have you been listening to? I have never heard it described as anything but sleaze and scorn."

Which one are you talking about. Not the "End of the Spear," right? There's nothing sleazy or scornful about that film. Be more specific, please.


29 posted on 01/21/2006 10:07:20 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
Someone else made the observation (on another thread) that if we hold everyone to these standards, NOBODY could have played JESUS CHRIST in "Passion of the Christ."

However, I believe people understood that it was the message that was most important. Did everyone check out the personal lives of those involved in the "Passion"? I'll bet they were sinners!

30 posted on 01/21/2006 10:08:30 AM PST by I'm ALL Right! (Love God, Love Others.)
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To: MineralMan

So if Mel Gibson had picked Chad Allen for the lead in the Passion of the Christ, you would have felt that we should simply ignore his lifestyle.


31 posted on 01/21/2006 10:09:31 AM PST by Essie
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To: bulldozer

The movie is already in a competition to see who's story will get more widespread play among the public, the movie subject or the gay power activist who was given his platform by the movie. The bigger the movie, the bigger his interview offers by the MSM. Magazines will print his point of view, and newspaper reviews will mention it. I'm not boycotting the movie, but since my enthusiasm for it has had cold water thrown on it , I will wait for the DVD.


33 posted on 01/21/2006 10:10:35 AM PST by ansel12
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To: bulldozer

It's not all bad. It's good for Christianity to know who it's enemies are.


34 posted on 01/21/2006 10:11:51 AM PST by countorlock (Tell me how you would hurt me when I don't no how I could hurt myself?)
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To: Always Right
As long as the left endorses the gay agenda and is anti-religion, they will remain the minority.

Wide is the gate and broad is the way...

By definition the narrow gate is not in the majority.

35 posted on 01/21/2006 10:13:28 AM PST by countorlock (Tell me how you would hurt me when I don't no how I could hurt myself?)
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To: I'm ALL Right!
Did everyone check out the personal lives of those involved in the "Passion"? I'll bet they were sinners!

Great point! If memory serves, the woman who played Mary had been in several sexually charged roles ncluding nudity. Where was that boycott?

36 posted on 01/21/2006 10:14:12 AM PST by inkling
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To: MineralMan

I probably did the post before reading thing. Book of Daniel I was referring to. I have one contact lens I am trying to get use to and it is driving me nut's.


37 posted on 01/21/2006 10:17:07 AM PST by boomop1
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To: Motherbear
Have you seen the film? If you had, you would know that the movie WILL make a difference. It is powerful, and it touches peoples' hearts and souls. We should be less interested in promoting our own issues and more interested in the fact that the message of God's love and unconditional forgiveness could reach millions through this film.

The filmmakers are Godly men. You do not know them, and you don't know God's purpose in putting Chad in this position. Incidentally, we didn't know God's purpose in allowing 5 Godly missionaries to die in 1956....but He has used that to inspire millions and draw them closer to Him.

38 posted on 01/21/2006 10:17:28 AM PST by I'm ALL Right! (Love God, Love Others.)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

Thanks for the insight, might be worth a look.


39 posted on 01/21/2006 10:17:46 AM PST by Apple Blossom (...around here, city hall is something of a between meals snack.)
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To: ansel12
Did you ever consider it might be part of God's plan to have Allen star in this movie? What if thousands of gays decide to support Allen by seeing this ardently Christian movie? They will witness the power of Christ unfiltered and may accept Christ. Maybe it will just plant the seeds of faith that will bloom later.

IMHO, that's a lot more powerful in God's eyes than a Christian film that does nothing but preach to the already saved.

40 posted on 01/21/2006 10:17:47 AM PST by inkling
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