Unprecedented mathematical knowledge found in (Minoan) Bronze Age wall paintings.

www.nature.com/news ^ | 28 February 2006 | Philip Ball

[Havoc]

Most believed Ramses II to be the pharaoh of the Exodus. That doesn't seem to fit. The latest evidence of the timeline from the Egyptian side places Ramses as late as 925bc as the Shishak that plundered Jerusalem. Others tend to favor Seti I .

Ramses was dated at one point to the 13th century BC. That is substantially later than 1627 and makes the linkage impossible with regard to the volcano theory. Other problems arise here as well. Solomon's reign would be ending in the time of Ramses II, making Solomon a Contemporary of Seti I. Solomon married Egyptian Royalty.
His wife would necessarily come from the court of Seti or Ramses. In any case, neither of them could be the pharaoh of the Exodus. Going backward, you have Solomon's father, David, sitting as Second King of Israel, then Saul who was the first. Saul has linkage with a prior pharaoh under his birth name Lebayou (sp?). This doesn't point to the pharaoh of the Exodus; but, it does rule out who could not have been.

Shoshenq I's Chief Archetect is recorded in a generational family tree that has been dated to year 26 of the reign of Darius I. Also listed in that family tree is the cheif architect of Ramses. So these aren't fixed dates for the beginnings and endings of the reigns, it just tells us who was reigning at a given snapshot in time. Shoshenq was reigning by the family tree in 776. Ramses II was in 925.
We know Seti I reigned into his 90s. And the Amarna letters
tie Saul to Ankhenaton. Saul was the first King of Israel after the Exodus. The letters to Pharaoh from Saul tie in nicely to biblical events recorded. Ankhenaton reigned under the name Amenhotep IV. This would rule out the conjecture about Tutankhamun being the firstborn son killed at passover.

Linkages have been drawn between Joseph and Amenemhet III which seem to support the later timeline - framing things in as it were. The Bar Joseph waterway from that period still bears Joseph's name. What seems problematic to me is the explosion of kings in the 13th Dynasty combined with the imprecision of dating in general. There are also a lot of assumptions made as to when many of the Kings ruled. Some dynasties seem to have been co-ruling instead of ruling in dynastic order - a kingdom divided between upper and lower Egypt as it were. Not altogether unexpected; but, a blind eye seems to prevail in attempt to stretch the timeline for reasons obvious to some and embarrassing to others when the corrections are made. I find it interesting the linkages made at Megiddo to Solomon. A building not matching his recorded building style and requirement is identified as his in preference over one that matches it precisely. Why? Because the one matching doesn't match the presumed "layer" in which Solomon is expected to be found. Faced with the contradiction, the hard evidence of the matching structure is abandoned in preference to the conjectural dating method of the layers. IMHO, this is a lot of what is wrong with science today. Ideologies get in the way of methodology. One should be following the evidence.

Anyway, I'm off to bed. Have fun with it.

[antisocial]

"A way-cool site; however, I don't see where it addresses the article's claim that the Archimedes spiral does not match natural patterns such as snail shells."

Click on plants or animals, or most any of the items in the center column.

[r9etb]

I see the golden ratio part .... what I don't see is any reference to the Archimedes Spiral. You can ignore me, or lead me by the nose.

[wildbill]

Wasn't the whole idea of the pillar of smoke that it would be a directional marker that would lead them away from Egypt and toward the promised land?

I hate to rain on your theory connecting the Thera volcano and Exodus, but if the Israelites had followed the smoke they would have wound up going NORTH our of Egypt into the Mediterranean Sea.

[antisocial]

The spiral growth of sea shells provide a simple,
but beautiful, example . . . Bottom of page

http://goldennumber.net/animals1.htm

[antisocial]

Sorry that link should be
http://goldennumber.net/nature.htm

or

http://goldennumber.net/spirals.htm

At the bottom of the page

[Havoc]

The valcano idea is tossed in because these guys want "naturalistic" explanations for things they can otherwise not explain. It's never enough for them to say "I don't know" or to take the scripture literally. People want to force supernatural into a natural explanation. When they can't they tend to avoid the subject rather than admit their ignorance. That is pride.

I like the jacketed sulfur pellets from the area of Sodom and Gamorah. I've never seen a natural explanation for them, yet there they are. Volcanos don't produce them nor is there one near by to explain them if volcanoes did produce them. And further, there is no explanation for the specific places they fell to the exclusion of others - that is unless one takes scripture at it's word and God at His.

[wildbill]

I've never heard of 'jacketed sulphur pellets' around the alleged site of Sodom & Gomorrah. Very interesting. I'd like to know more.

Are these anything like the jacketed depleted uranium shells the US Airforce uses to pierce the armor on tanks?

I suppose God could have used depleted uranium if He wanted to--but God knows jacketed sulphur pellets were probably enough to destroy the rock huts of that rabble in Sodom and Gomorrah.

[Havoc]

The sulphur pellets are fairly small - about the size of a golf ball as I remember. The core is pure sulphur with an outher jacket or casing that I'm not sure about the makeup of.. The interesting thing about them is that they burn so hot, they are found imbedded into solid rock that they melted their way into as it were.

http://www.wyattmuseum.com/images/wpe3.jpg

http://www.exchangedlife.com/wyatt/images/sulphurball.jpg

http://www.exchangedlife.com/wyatt/images/aaron.jpg


There used to be some pretty good shots of these posted at Wyatt's website. I found a few.

I don't know if the casing is a result of impacting something or not. It's just something I remembered seeing in other photos.

I think the numbers I remember seeing are that most sulphur deposits are in the range of 30-40 percent pure. These pellets are 95 plus percent pure and burn at 5000 to 6000 degrees. Very nasty little buggers as it were. My understanding is that they produce ash that is denser than normal - heavier. And looking at the remains of Gamorah, that isn't tough to believe.

[Havoc]

Here's another link with more info. This one includes some discussion of the jackets I mentioned. Also notes that the purity is higher than I remembered and that Magnesium is present in the makeup of these things.

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/sodom_&_gomorrah.htm

[watchin]

Sea shells follow the Fibonacci series which results from adding the two previous numbers (1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34...), making the space between spirals ever greater.

The Archimedes' spiral is actually simpler (1,2,3,4,5,6,7...), with a constant distance between spirals.

[SunkenCiv]

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