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To: FOG724

That why a breed ban will be effective. It's obvious that few folks are capable of being Alpha with these bred for fighting creatures.

Spay and neuter existing Pits, euthanize the maulers, then ban breeding them. The fighting dog as a pet experiment has failed.


50 posted on 03/18/2006 11:03:10 AM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Wristpin
That why a breed ban will be effective.

Other breeds are worse than pit bulls and prohibition never works. How about holding ALL dog owners responsible for their pets. Maybe require pet owners to carry pet responsibility insurance.

52 posted on 03/18/2006 11:09:22 AM PST by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: Wristpin

If only that could be done with the human species as well.


117 posted on 03/18/2006 4:41:56 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Wristpin
>The fighting dog as a pet experiment has failed.<

Quoted from the Hong Kong Shar Pei club:

"The SP is a Chinese breed that through so much trouble, had finally established itself in the canine history. How can I turn around now and tell the whole world that fighting is not one of the quality and leave it out and not mention it in the breed standard. How would I be able to face my ancestors when I reach the other side?"

Yup, that's one dangerous lookin' critter. We better ban them, they were originally bred fer fightin'.

136 posted on 03/18/2006 7:32:11 PM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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There is a lot of ignorance in this thread. A lot of people who obviously have not done any reading up on what they're talking about. In tests done on over 100 different breeds of dogs to test the likelihood of them biting someone pit bulls were 4th.........from the bottom. Labradors had a higher likelihood than the pit bull did. Right now in this country pit bulls are in the top percentile in popularity. They're popular because they look tough and can protect property mostly. When that's the reason people get them yes there's going to be problems. Those OWNERS should be in trouble. They should have serious penalties and reprecussions for what they've done to those dogs. That dog should have never been in a place where the fence was low enough to jump, and shouldn't have been unleashed. A report by the U.S. Postal office said that the dogs they've had the most reports of bites with was the Pomeranian, pit bulls weren't even on their list. Labradors and the golden retriever were. Pit bulls can be awesome family dogs. It's not bullshit I've seen it. I have never seen so much patience in a dog dealing with a baby as the Pitt that I'm familiar with. She let an 11 month old baby climb all over her, pull her ears, her teeth, and she didn't even get up to get away. Just licked the baby's face. When the baby went to spend time with a grandma for the weekend, the Pitt kept climbing into her crib because she missed her. I don't think banning the breed is the answer, because pit bulls are a smart loyal breed. I think making the penalties on the owners much stronger would be much more effective. I'd also like everyone to keep in mind that the term pit bull incorporates 3 different breeds of dog, and that usually their statistics are compiled together. Which is like grouping the Labrador and golden retriever together. Also pit bull attacks are often mislabeled. A lot of people say it was a pit bull that attacked them, but when the actual dog is found it's not even close to a pit bull, but by then the news is already out. There's a lot to look into, and a lot to educate yourself on before you decide that the whole breed is bad. I know better, I've spent the last 2 years educating myself. I rescued a baby pit bull from a neighbor and have never once regretted it. She's the smartest, most loving, loyal dog I've ever had. I have severe social phobia and anxiety, and I'm slowly getting better, I owe a lot of that to her, there's times in my life I wouldn't have made it through without her knowing just when to put her head in my lap, or her constant antics making me laugh. Below are some pictures of Cinnamon my pitt, her with the baby, she carefully laid next to her because she was nervous about her falling, her in the crib after the baby left, I put the blanket on her to make it cute, but she put herself in there, her cuddled up with our other dog and my brother, who she'd just met that day for the 1st time, and the last one of me holding her. I'd had a rough day that day and had been crying and she jumped up to be held to make me laugh. Image hosting by Photobucket Image hosting by Photobucket Image hosting by Photobucket Image hosting by Photobucket
157 posted on 03/26/2006 10:41:54 PM PST by washington_gurl72
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To: Wristpin

A breed ban is just as rational as a race ban in people. In 1999, the AKC, UKC, and ADBA registered more "pit bull" type dogs than any other breed. Today, the breed represents almost 10% of the entire population of dogs, and that is just the pure bred ones. Yet, you don't see four million deaths a year. More like 3 deaths. The vast majority of these dogs live their entire lives as happy pets, never doing anything that any other breed doesn't do. The difference is that since they are so powerful, when they DO attack, it is a big deal. Not only that, but many times, when a dog attacks someone, the media, police, or other uneducated people will call the dog a pit bull because that's what they think it is. Many dogs have been mistaken for pit bulls and reported as such, so that is the big headline you see. Most of the time when there is a correction to be made, it isn't published, or the actual breed is never found out. There are also lots and lots of responsible pit owners out there, but since their dogs aren't messing up, you don't hear about them. You only hear about the dogs that escape (because idiots will not keep track of their dogs to ensure they can't leave the yard, don't neuter them, or just let them run loose)the dogs that attack people entering the yard/house, and the most is children, who are never taught how to act around dogs in the first place. The breed went from being the symbol of America, a hero, and nanny dog, to a vicious, unpredictable monster? These dogs are still dogs. Nothing has changed, except for their popularity. We went through the same thing with German Shephards, Dobermans, Chows, Rottweilers, and even Great Danes. No reporter would ever quote dog bite statistics, because there are no ratings in cocker spaniels, dalmations, and schnauzer attacks.


161 posted on 03/29/2006 11:56:15 AM PST by solosmoke
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