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'24' is a Show Full of Surreal Life Lessons
Morning Call ^ | 4/9/06 | Renee A. James

Posted on 04/09/2006 9:53:55 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta

If you watch Kiefer Sutherland and "24," you learn to handle 60 minutes of tension, heartbreak and deception each week. And that's just between the characters of the president and the first lady.

But although fans love it, even the most ardent learn to overlook a lot regarding plot devices and characters.

Example: Jack Bauer, toughest guy on the planet and lead terrorist hunter, who can withstand torture, gunshots, drugs and severe mental anguish, found a pretty cool job for his annoying daughter, Kim.

After her stint as a runaway and a troubled teen in season one, she became an agent at the Counter Terrorism Unit (CTU).

Kim, whose previous claim to heroic fame was escaping a wildcat while lost in the mountains of southern California, was now among the elite specialists who would save the lives of everyday Americans should the very worst take place. God help us.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 24; chloe; chloerocks; flank2; jackbauer; jackbauerpowerhour; lessons; tv; wwjbd
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To: El Gran Salseron

I think that's called a "snap judgment." On Alias, it turns out the corruption was NOT in the CIA, but in some shadowy group that was passing itself off as the CIA. The good guys were in the CIA.

As for corruption in government--what on earth would you call the Clinton administration, if not "corruption in government"?


41 posted on 04/09/2006 10:14:04 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: SamAdams76

Twin Peaks is great. Is Season 2 available on DVD yet? Remember Laura Palmer.


42 posted on 04/09/2006 10:14:23 AM PDT by Cyclopean Squid (History is a work in progress)
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To: SamAdams76
Great list, Sam. See you on the thread tomorrow? Ask Oxen or silent johnny to add you.

(Sorry guys - I can't recall your exact screenies)

43 posted on 04/09/2006 10:15:48 AM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing. Become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Eighteen important things learned about life from action adventure films:

1. No matter what my problem is, it's the fault of someone other than myself, and the appropriate response is to find that person and kill him with my bare hands.

2. To be truly attractive, a woman must wear high heels and an outfit so tight you can tell whether she's cold or not from across the room.

3. There are two kinds of women in the world: one type want to go to bed with you, the other type want to kill you. Both types are physically attractive and under 25 years old.

4. If I argue with my boss (or shoot him) in front of my coworkers, not only won't he fire me, but he will gain a profound respect for me.

5. If I can find an important enough mission, it will supersede my obligations to perform household chores, bathe, and call the next day.

6. If I go without bathing, swear a lot, and treat women badly, they will adore me.

7. If a woman tries to clean a bullet wound and I curse in pain, she will fall in love with me.

8. Anyone who isn't a cop, mercenary soldier, and/or private investigator is clueless or a sissy.

9. If I have a prolonged fist-fight with another guy and neither of us dies, we will become best friends.

9b. Corollary to 9 (above). If I have a prolonged fist-fight with another guy, neither of us will lose any teeth, suffer any broken bones or experience rupture of any organs and/or significant hemorrhaging.

10. My archenemy will bear an uncanny resemblance in age and bearing to my father, and he will make it clear that he has gained a deep respect for me before I kill him with my bare hands.

11. When I shoot people, they will die quickly and cleanly, will not thrash around or make embarrassing sounds of any sort, and I will never be arrested or engaged in prolonged litigation by their widowed wife and children. When people shoot me, however, I will at most receive a 'flesh wound,' which will be tended to by a beautiful woman (see #7, above).

12. If white, I will befriend at least one black guy, or, if black, one white guy. If I am Latino the monster/villain will kill me halfway through the film, urging the hero to even greater levels of violence.

13. If an aged scientist is involved in any way, his hair will be frizzy and unkempt, and he will have a beautiful daughter who will gaze at me adoringly.

14. If royalty is involved, it will include a beautiful princess who will gaze at me adoringly.

15. If I have a kid partner, he will be tightly-muscled, clean-cut, and gaze at me adoringly.

16. If I am asked to compete against a world champion at any sport or game of any type, I will win. This will infuriate my opponent, who will then try to kill me.

17. If my opponent has a sidekick or henchman, he will never have a sensible name like 'Rick,' or 'Steve.'

18. Beautiful women will frequently furrow their brows with concern and ask, "When's the last time you got any sleep?" They will never ask when I last bathed or used the toilet, although I apparently never do those things either.


44 posted on 04/09/2006 10:15:54 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I went out and bought season 1 in February, we just bought Season 3 yesterday, and am now ready to start watching season 3 now that we're done watching season 2.

Love the show, it's the kind of show where no talking is allowed while the show is on. Gotta watch it on dvd, though, 1 hour and having to wait a whole week to find out what happens next is torture.

AS for Bauer's daughter, yeah, I'll have to say that kid annoys the heck out of me, calls her father at the worse possible time, doesn't listen to dad and ends up getting into trouble. Okay, that's the writers doing that, lol.

And Sherry Palmer, my favourite person to hate. She reminds me of Hillary.


45 posted on 04/09/2006 10:16:56 AM PDT by psjones
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To: SamAdams76
24 is a real fun show .........if you are able to deal in high fantasy

The President is shown to be inept and weak, the Vice Pres is shown to be a power grabber and the Chief of staff deals with terrorists to sell Nerve gas.

Other than that it may have some ???????? little real stuff in it.

46 posted on 04/09/2006 10:17:04 AM PDT by Oldsailor
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To: MizSterious; SamAdams76
It's probably in the eye of the beholder (or viewer), but I think of it as a patriotic show.

Yeah, I second that emotion. Try it, you'll love it!
47 posted on 04/09/2006 10:17:20 AM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: SamAdams76
So what of this "24" show? Liberal crap? Or is it worth checking out?

Best show on television. I single-handedly am responsible for getting my roommate, and my mother and father back home, addicted to this show.

48 posted on 04/09/2006 10:17:32 AM PDT by jude24 ("The Church is a harlot, but she is my mother." - St. Augustine)
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To: CheneyChick

I won something, I just don't know what!


49 posted on 04/09/2006 10:17:42 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: SamAdams76

I love Mystery Science Theatre 3000 - is that still on? I haven't seen it in a LONG time.

Based on your collection of videos, I think you'll enjoy 24, too.

I started watching it last season and got hooked right away. I've been away at some training so I am behind about 4 episodes (thank goodness for DVR) -- and I had to avoid the thread so that I can keep the element of surprise going!

I hope they do get that on the ITMS.


50 posted on 04/09/2006 10:17:53 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: CheneyChick

aha! A Jeff Gordon poster!


51 posted on 04/09/2006 10:17:56 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: SamAdams76

52 posted on 04/09/2006 10:18:06 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta (There's always a reason to choose life.)
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To: MizSterious
Do you like the show? I haven't watched it yet, but I trust your judgment.
53 posted on 04/09/2006 10:18:46 AM PDT by Krodg
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Didn't realize Kiefer has all those tatoos!

He didn't have them in the naked torture scene from Season Two (or was it Three?).

54 posted on 04/09/2006 10:18:58 AM PDT by pbear8 (I have to wait until Monday for '24'!!!! =()
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To: Krodg

It's one of those I record every week. I record it because it's so "edge of the chair" I can't bear to wait for the commercial breaks--we just zap right past those to get the full episode uninterrupted.


55 posted on 04/09/2006 10:19:57 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: SamAdams76
Sam

If nothing else, you will be so envious of Bauer's cell phone. It works anywhere and never runs out of battery. Yet it looks like an off the shelf old Star Tac!

56 posted on 04/09/2006 10:20:32 AM PDT by llevrok (Illegal immigrants or "colonists" ?)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

LOL.

OK - I do have one question about 24. When does Jack eat? Especially around the episodes that would fall in the breakfast/lunch/dinner timeframe, I keep waiting for him to eat, and he doesn't.


57 posted on 04/09/2006 10:21:20 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Oldsailor
The White House was moved to Los Angeles too. I've seen every show and don't ever recall a moment when the President was in Washington. The Prez that went down on Air Force One seemed to be en route to LA from DC, but he still wasn't ever shown in the Oval.

 

58 posted on 04/09/2006 10:21:26 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: pbear8; Dr. Scarpetta
They covered his tats with makeup. *blech*

But they showed in the beginning eps when he rejoind CTU. It was the shaving/haircutting scene. Made no sense at all.

At that time, he only had the tats on his upper arms.

59 posted on 04/09/2006 10:22:22 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

President Logan has been an Asshat from the beginning.


60 posted on 04/09/2006 10:22:35 AM PDT by SuziQ
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