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Newspaper: DNA Evidence May Link Duke Lacrosse Player to Rape
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Posted on 05/11/2006 9:44:16 AM PDT by celejrm313

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To: muawiyah
You posted " there's a commonly used date rate drug out there that makes the victim believe she (or he) was raped even if no rape took place."

So I went to your link. Nowhere in my quick perusal of the effects of the drugs was any evidence to warrant your statement that "makes the victim believe she (or he) was raped even if no rape took place"
61 posted on 05/11/2006 1:55:05 PM PDT by saleman
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To: saleman

muawiyah

is a troll.


62 posted on 05/11/2006 2:16:48 PM PDT by don'tbedenied ( D)
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To: don'tbedenied; muawiyah
muawiyah is a troll.

He has been a troll since 1998???? WOW! I never knew someone could last that long being a troll.

63 posted on 05/11/2006 2:21:00 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: don'tbedenied

I don't know about that. I just don't appreciate folks misrepresenting what they post and then trying to educate me by feeding me a bunch of BS.

Come to think of it, he does sound like a troll.


64 posted on 05/11/2006 2:52:21 PM PDT by saleman
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To: rhombus

Supposedly you need 13 "loci" for a complete match. If you have less it's only partial. If they have a match of 11 loci it could still be good evidence but if they have 6 or less it really isn't going to be very persuasive. I heard this from scientific "experts" making the rounds on TV.


65 posted on 05/11/2006 3:05:57 PM PDT by SarahUSC
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To: SarahUSC

Thanks very much for that explanation. I'm not really sure what a loci is and didn't know what they meant by a maybe match.


66 posted on 05/11/2006 3:57:26 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: SarahUSC
Just went and read a good DNA site. The 13 is the cutoff for establishing a match. But it goes on...."Conversly, if you can't get the 13 matches....you have the wrong person".

That's very different from saying we "almost" have a match.

67 posted on 05/11/2006 4:04:40 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Now I wonder if the maybe/supposed match is one of the three players the stripper identified. If not, will the DA care?


68 posted on 05/11/2006 4:17:46 PM PDT by Smedley
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To: celejrm313
i am just going out on a limb here and wondering if Yellowdog might be a troll.

Bingo.

69 posted on 05/11/2006 4:22:43 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: saleman
Do tell.... I've never heard of a "date rape" drug that makes anyone believe they've been raped even if they haven't.

You're exactly right; and no date drug leaves you "lucid" enough to name names and pick out players and say where they were SITTING, and what they were DRINKING, and who they were TALKING to.

70 posted on 05/11/2006 4:27:33 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: yellowdoghunter

Let's see. She and her friend called police lying saying "they were just driving by..." Didn't mention a rape. No rape was ever mentioned. She fingered a guy 100% that has strong alibi. She has made these allegations 2 other times against people one could reasonably argue is vindictive..... on and on and on.


71 posted on 05/11/2006 4:28:36 PM PDT by GoMonster (GO)
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To: Sacajaweau
...."Conversly, if you can't get the 13 matches....you have the wrong person".

That's the rule?

72 posted on 05/11/2006 4:29:18 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Smedley
Now I wonder if the maybe/supposed match is one of the three players the stripper identified.

The reporters seem to know who the 3rd person is, but they won't name him.

And Dan Abrams said he knows; he also asked today about the "material," whatever it is, being found in a house where a person lives, so I'm thinking it is one of the two specimens that they found in the bathroom -- NOT ON HER -- that the SBI lab found "inconclusive."

73 posted on 05/11/2006 4:31:01 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Smedley
There is no "maybe" match. If he doesn't have the 13 markers, it gets thrown in the basket.

The DA has several things against him already...The time stamped photos, the ATM photo, the phone logs (which might include GPS data), furnishing ONLY Duke Players as a "line up" to pick from. This is another stupid move by DiFong...almost a match. This isn't horseshoes.

Two things still bother me...What dude would put on a condom for oral sex...which she says occurred. So she scatched but didn't bite?? Uh huh!!

Where was she BEFORE she went to the Duke's house. Why is absolutely every report leaving that out? Why is everyone leaving out "Who was watching the kids?"

74 posted on 05/11/2006 4:43:50 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Howlin

Howlin...That's what I read and I'll go back and get the exact wording and a reference. (I know I should have bookmarked uit). I believe it was the FBI standards.


75 posted on 05/11/2006 4:46:31 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: yellowdoghunter

"No, I mean so much hatred on FR. Every time it comes on the cable news, I turn it because I could really care less. I was just wondering why there is so much hatred on FR for this lady"

She's the Joe Wilson of the stripping industry.


76 posted on 05/11/2006 4:50:43 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Smedley

I heard on Hannity's show today that the AV originally picked 4 men out of the line-up.


77 posted on 05/11/2006 4:51:29 PM PDT by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: saleman; don'tbedenied

Agreed.


78 posted on 05/11/2006 4:54:31 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Sacajaweau
Two things still bother me...What dude would put on a condom for oral sex...which she says occurred. So she scatched but didn't bite?? Uh huh!!

What dude would put his member in the mouth of his rape victim, condom or not?

79 posted on 05/11/2006 4:57:42 PM PDT by Smedley
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To: Sacajaweau

On Nancy Grace right now, they are saying it is LESS than 13.


80 posted on 05/11/2006 5:10:42 PM PDT by Howlin
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