Pit bulls shot to death after attack on cow (sad picture of mother cow, protecting it's calf)

ajc.com ^ | 05/24/06 | Mark Davis

[rawhide]

Cecil Wallace awoke about 4:30 a.m. Saturday to the bawling of cows and the howling of dogs. The Buford farmer grabbed his shotgun and went running out the back door.

His son and next-door neighbor, Kenneth Wallace, also jarred awake — also carrying a shotgun — joined him. Father and son ran toward the pasture...

...Reaching the pasture, the Wallaces saw a cow, bloodied and torn, its calf standing nearby. As they approached the animal, according to reports, two dogs came running towards them.

Kenneth Wallace raised his 12-gauge. Boom! The larger dog hit the dirt, howling. Wallace fired again, and the dog was quiet.

The female kept coming. Kenneth Wallace fired a third time, the blast echoing along the darkened reaches of Bart Johnson Road.

The Wallaces dragged the dogs' bodies aside and tended to the cow, Betsy. She looked bad — right ear torn off, the left shredded like paper. Her nose was ripped and torn. Two teeth were knocked loose. Not long after daybreak, Cecil Wallace took Betsy to a Cumming veterinarian, who prescribed painkillers and antibiotics for the Angus/Hereford cross.

"She's still in bad shape," Cecil Wallace, 73, said Tuesday. "She tries to eat, but she can't; her mouth's too sore."

Animal control officers have cited one dog owner with failing to have the animal on a leash.. They also charged the owner with violating the county's vicious-animal ordinance, which requires owners of a dangerous dog or cat to have it muzzled whenever the animal is off the owner's property.

Meghan Martin, who lives near the Wallaces, said she is the owner whom officers cited...p>

When I went to sleep, my dog was in bed with me," she said. A roommate let out her dog, plus a friend's pit bull, Martin said...

[Wristpin]

Another town that is fed up with the Pit-falls of these dogs:

http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=4900928&nav=menu119_2

"We had a little poodle, wouldn't harm a flea, and here this thing comes over here and kills it. Man, that is stupid,” stated James McAplin.

[GMMAC]

If you or your buddy were truly interested in "legitimate debate" as you've claimed, you'd explain/justify:

1. Why recognized authorities - e.g. virtually every legitimate animal welfare organization in North America other than PETA - rejects 'breed ban legislation?
(Wristspin's ridiculous & totally unfounded claim all are in the pay of some imagined 'pit bull' cartel not withstanding)

2. The negative impact of your position on responsible, law-abiding dog-owners based upon the real world example cited in my post # 332 ?

3. Specifically what definition you're using as to what, in your mind, constitutes a 'pit bull' in light of Wristspin's seeming confusion as to same noted/raised - but, of course as is both of your 'debating' styles, still unanswered - in my post # 338.

4. How you can blithely ignore even the possibility of agenda-driven bias in the msm 'news' stories you've repeatedly cited (e.g. no other 'breed' is seldom or ever mentioned by the msm, plus the term 'pit bull' is never defined) while dismissing out-of-hand all other sources of information as somehow biased?


I'd also note, both of you seem to merely want to lash out at dogs which you see as a menace but consistently refuse to address the inherent negative social implications of a 'solution' based solely upon arbitrary & subjective perceptions as to a certain vague 'type' of dogs' general physical appearance.

Failure to answer each & every one of the questions raised above will amply demonstrate to all beyond any doubt precisely who is engaged in "legitimate debate".

[Wristpin]

1. As I pointed out Dogs are big money...Some of these folks are just misguided fighting breed fanciers, some are breed pushers. The position that Breed and genetics has no influence on the propensity to attack and kill is laughable. Retrievers retrieve, Beagles take off and chase rabbits for days, Pointers point, lap dogs sit on your lap and fighting breeds fight and attack...That's what they were selected for. You may be able to control it, but it is always there lurking.

For an example of the Pit Cabal, let's take your Canadian buddy(just look at his page), desperately seeking information on BJ's local US legislative issue. That's US local matter not one for Canadian Pit pushing globalists. Certainly no lawyers from Kanawa's Pit organizations will descend down to BJ's town and try to affect a local matter, will they?

2. Unfortunately, the Pit Bulls are failing the real world test as pets and it has become a public safety issue. Any restrictions are possibly unfair to some, but weighed against the interest of public safety. Local restrictions on dangerous property are not Unconstitutional and there are plenty of examples of restricted items and behaviors.
Unfair...maybe, UnConstitutional, No.

3.Ahh.... the ole there is no such breed talking point... I'll leave the ID of a Pit Bull up to local Law Enforcement and animal control personnel as they seize, and shoot many of these animals. Additionally, these are the number one shelter dog in many communities. These professionals handle live and dead Pits all the time.... Fair enough... or are only certified Pit Bull community DNA specialists acceptable?

4. Are you seriously contending that the media is generating these reports when no such attacks actually took place? Why haven't the Pit owners identified in these stories sued for libel? Please point out these libel suits if there are any? I think most people know that the "Pit Bull" is the commonly accepted term for APBTs and AST.


As far as debating, you've seldomed posted any factual information, merely feelings of persecution, unfairness and spin from the Pit Bull community. Then a few insults when you are stumped. Yet, not a single time have you expressed concern for the victims of these attacks, nor the overbreeding of these dogs and how many thousands are born just to die in the shelters. That's where you lose all credibility, lack of concern for things that cause real suffering. Like others have said the deceitful denial campaign is setting you back.

Now, Do you offer any constructive solutions or maintain the head in the hand approach? If you have no solutions, I award you an F minus and an "Incomplete" for lack of effort.

[GMMAC]

Re your post #363:

Your point #1:
'Pit bull' type dogs are a very small part of the overall canine population so, those which attack are a minuscule portion. Yet, your shotgun 'solution' penalizes the 99+% of dog owners who aren't part of the problem. Concentrating control efforts on the relatively tiny, by comparison, number of specific irresponsible / negligent dog owners is prima facie common sense. Further, the arbitrary & subjective nature of so-called 'breed ban" laws make them both unworkable & grossly unfair to far more owners / dogs than there is any logical basis to target.
As far as genetic predisposition is concerned, forget DNA, your 'solution' harasses even benign owners / dogs where there's at best & merely in someone's opinion a vague 'pit bull look' present - see my still unanswered post # 338.

Your point #2:
Even if there were an agreed definition as to what constitutes a 'pit bull' - which there plainly isn't - by definition any law which punishes the vast majority for the sins of a tiny few is unfair & arbitrary (ergo, unconstitutional where applicable)
BTW, although very obviously the vast, vast majority of owners / dogs aren't part of the problem, all statistics are fatally flawed by their lack of any agreed 'pit bull' definition while public perception of it is manipulated by sensationalized & agenda-driven biased msm coverage (e.g. msn on SUV's - sheesh!)

Your point #3:
What sort of 'conservative' puts his trust solely in the arbitrary & subjective perceptions governmental authorities ???
Plus, owners / dogs are 'guilty until proven innocent' under your 'solution' - and with no meaningful or cost-effective means of appeal (again, see my still unanswered post # 338)
Forget any body's DNA experts as well as the perceptions (AKA 'feelings') of civil servants and take the far simpler route of going directly after irresponsible / negligent dog owners !!!

Your point #4:
No one has said dog attacks (even by 'pit bull' type dogs) don't occur.
However, all who disagree with you firmly believe that the msm sensationalizes & over 'reports' them just as it does with SUV's & virtually in every other area where it has an open agenda.
"I think most people know that the "Pit Bull" is the commonly accepted term for APBTs and AST."
Couldn't disagree more! Most people (and reporters!) have some vague notion of the host of crossbred dogs, which often look only remotely similar, responsible for most 'pit bull' related dog attacks.
As example, news footage of the supposed 'pit bull' involved in the Ontario, Canada attack this week portrays an animal perhaps half German Shepard (?) but certainly with lots of something other than any sort of terrier in its genetic make-up.

Your concluding statements:
Arguing that my post #314 (as but one example) which documented the opposition of responsible animal welfare bodies to the 'breed ban' approach somehow didn't more than counter - by any criteria! - the host of msm "news" stories you & others have posted, quite plainly speaks volumes as to your complete lack of any objectivity.

As to me not mentioning human or animal victims, nowhere have I denigrated their - to me plainly self-evident - misfortune.
I've merely concentrated - as one does in debate - on the far greater, in terms of obvious overall numbers - problems your statist approach inflicts upon otherwise good citizens & their pets.
If we're pointing the finger of denial, aside from your cavalier rejection of the host of expert bodies which completely disagree with you, there's still been no real response to the issue of the likely tens of times more dog owners & their pets whom your approach harms by comparison to the tiny number it may police. (once again, see my post #338)

"Constructive solutions" ?
I posted (my #314) a full page of them, authored by legitimate experts & likely endorsed by every single FReeper on this thread who disagrees with you.

If I'm to receive an "F minus", how far off the scale are those who've advanced PETA's position and smugly 'feel' they've backed it up with cheap emotionalism, blatant denial, and selective liberal media "news" clippings ???

[Wristpin]

Dang... you blather on like a silly girl!

Your whole notion about responsible owners is a laugher. Is there such a thing as "responsible Blood Sport" dog ownership? Maybe if one was to keep it locked up and treated it like a loaded gun....but that goes against the sweet, loving and non human aggressive talking points.

I had an aquaintance who was a functioning alcoholic. He would show up to work each day on time and function perfectly. After work he would head straight for the bar, then eventually drive home drunk. He probably amassed 30,000 drunken driving miles before getting help. He never had a single fender bender, accident, nor DUI.

Why did he have to carry the burden and fear of driving of being a criminal when driving home each night? He was a good drunk driver apparently. Just because drunk drivers are 16 times more likely to be involved in a fatal accident, the so called "statist" made his behavior illegal.

It's the same damn reason the Pit Bullers have trouble with the insurance companies...ACTURIAL RISK. Yes many dogs bite, but the fighting breeds FINISH. It called Gameness. Look up the definition some time.

I think that Ontario dog was a Lab/Pit mix...According to the wife. Those genes are the gift that keeps on giving.

[GMMAC]

I answered you point-by-point and you commenced with an insult ... and then once again ignored the totally valid issues raised within my posts # 314 & 338 (among many others) and, as per usual failed to address the fact that there's clearly no accepted/binding (or possible) definition as to what exactly constitutes a 'pit bull' type dog.

Unlike my post #314, wherein recognized experts outline the problem & offer concrete recommendations as to what they believe will (general education coupled with specific case enforcement) & won't mitigate it ('breed ban' laws), you've once more offered up rambling, philosophical (as opposed to fact and/or solution based) advocacy for PETA's hysteria & ignorance driven 'kill 'em all & then announce what we next want banned' position.

As for "gameness" even this cat-owner is quite familiar with the term/concept.
However, I also well know that numerous - so far - unbanned true, recognized breeds with a like general reputation for attacks possess it as well & I'd gladly put my money on a Rottweiler or, especially, an Akita in any scrap with one of your imagined universal 'devil dogs'.

Given the minuscule number of dogs of any breed/type which ever attack humans, your drunk driver analogy is incredibly weak:
Much like stating that every man/woman is a potential rapist/prostitute merely because they have the necessary equipment - which similarly ignores positive socialization (as with dogs) and a host of other factors.

[kanawa]

Are you sick of people looking at your breed of dog in fear because politicians and the media are saying things like;

"We want to breed these dogs out of existence,"

"They are killing machines on a leash."

"These breeds don't belong in our community"

Well worry no longer, attackchi will be making disguises for all the so called 'dangerous breeds'. Now you can go to the park with your kids and your dog (like you have been doing for years), without the worry of people thinking you are a bad parent.

Poodle disguise for Dobermans
Kit includes; - Fake fur pieces (4 leg pieces, one body piece, and head piece) - Black face paint (safe for dogs) - Safe suit fitting method statement and instructions. (items sold seperately) - Under harness

> > Instructions < <

1) Unwrap your kit, let your dog sniff everything.

2) Fit the under harness to your dog, adjust the straps to suit.

 

3) Put some duct tape tags onto the harness

 

4) Put some padding on top and tape it to the tabs

5) Lay the fur out and staple padding to it

 

6) Put tape over the staples to avoid injury

7) Put some extra duct tape on

 

8) Place it over your dog

 

9) Add some padding if required, tape flaps into place

10) Line up foot with 'special foot insertion device'

11) Place the ankle piece on the foot

12) Remove the 'special foot insertion device' and fluff up the ankle pieces

 

13) Put the hat on your dogs head

14) Take your dog outside and paint it black
(use face paint supplied, safe for dogs)

 

15) Done!

Oh what a lovely dog!

 

Other kits coming soon!
Turn your German Shepherd into a Golden Retriever! Also works on: Rottweilers Great Danes Ridgebacks	Turn your Mastiff into an Old English Sheepdog! Also works on: Rottweilers Great Danes Ridgebacks

 

 

Disclaimer: dressing your dog like this will increase the chance of it biting you
(If you copy the above images, please mention this.)

[kanawa]

To satisfy the copywrite on the above I must mention at least 6 of the other 10 breeds
that are automatically declared dangerous under some Queensland Council Local Laws:

Anatolian Shepherds, Bull Mastiffs, Dobermans, German Shepherds,
Great Danes, Greyhounds, Maremmas, Neapolitan Mastiffs,
Rhodesian Ridgebacks, and Rottweilers.

[rattrap]

That's awesome! :-D

When does the pit kit come out?

My "land shark" doesn't have her ears or tail cropped so she's somewhat disguised already and all the people in my apartments love her to death but you never know when some politican might see her so I'll need something, maybe a Lhasa Apso conversion. I added a pic of her to my homepage.

[Kokojmudd]

BTW & as per usual, there's nothing quite like a good 'pit bull' thread to bring out every statist, fascist bully & thug masquerading as a conservative on FR out from under their respective rocks!

hear, here. statists masquerading as conservatives can be more of a public nuisance than even liberals masquerading at moderates.

[Kokojmudd]

Very nice! Will they also be releasing a kit to make a poodle look like a pit bull?

[GMMAC]

This one's extra specially for you FRiend:

[Texan5]

I love the dog disguises! I have a Siberian Husky, and I've seen some city's proposed dog breed bans that included Huskies, although I don't recall ever hearing about a Husky attack.

There is a brindle Bullmastiff that lives up the road from me, as well as two Rottweilers, an American Staffordshire Terrier (what most people think of as the infamous Pit Bull Terrier), a German Shepherd, 3 Australian Shepherds and the rancher at the end of the road has two of those pretty white Maremmas that he treats like babies when he is not out working with them, and his sheep and goats. He will also shoot your dog if it gets loose on his property and runs his livestock, and rightly so.

The current most ill mannered and nasty dog on the road is a horrid French Bulldog that races savagely up and down it's fence snarling and snapping at everyone that comes by, but it would be given a pass by these stupid breed bans because it is small and cute. Most of us keep our dogs indoors when we are at work and can't watch them because people have been known to go to isolated areas and steal purebred dogs, but the huge fine for a loose dog is a fine deterent to keeping your dog on your property, too. Fine and jail irresponsible dog owners, period-I don't care if they have a doberman or a poodle, if it is terrorizing and biting and running loose, fine the crap out of the owner.

[GMMAC]

"Fine and jail irresponsible dog owners, period - I don't care if they have a doberman or a poodle, if it is terrorizing and biting and running loose, fine the crap out of the owner." ~ Texan5

BINGO !!!
Individual Responsibility ~ Personal Accountability
That's the 'bottom line' for virtually every
legitimate animal welfare body in North America
and authentic conservatives everywhere !

[kanawa]

That's US local matter not one for Canadian Pit pushing globalists. Certainly no lawyers from Kanawa's Pit organizations will descend down to BJ's town and try to affect a local matter, will they?

The lieberal government in Ontario justified their actions in part on Ohio's breed ban
and the testimony of dog-catcher...err...sorry... dog warden Skelton.
Just as now other nanny-staters are looking to Ontario to justify their intrusive and ineffective attempts to ban whole breeds and dog types on the basis of a few media-hyped incidents.
Bud wake-up, you're part of a trans-national socialist attempt to engineer a perfectly safe leftist utopian society governed by seemingly benevolent but power hungry and controlling nannies.
Individual freedom, responsibility and accountability are foreign concepts to them.

If your happy and you know it, rattle your chains.

When they come to take away your hunting and fishing rights and your dog,
or whatever else you hold dear, give me a shout.
I'll be glad to stick up for you.

[kanawa]

so I'll need something, maybe a Lhasa Apso conversion

No problem, a little bit of black paint and Voila...a "perfectly safe" Lab.

[Texan5]

Thank you-people need to re-learn to be responsible for their pets. If you love your pet then be a responsible adult and keep it confined to your property.

[GMMAC]

Someone mention the slimeball, morally bankrupt, "lieberal government in Ontario" ???

[Kokojmudd]

Just came from a walk around the block and believe it or not the neighbor's poodle (an untrained vicious little dog) ran out of the house and attacked, yes attacked a poorly walked (the poor dog had one of those body harnesses and was literally dragging the hapless owner) rott/Shepperd mix!

2 lousy dog owners on display. Too bad they cannot be banned.

[arizonarachel]

That's a cruel and disgusting way to deal with 'nuisance' dogs. Why not just shoot them? Your friend sickens me.