Posted on 08/03/2006 12:22:06 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
"Every other scientific theory invites critical analysis,"
Really. Could you name some of those theories that "invite critical analysis" by lay persons not involved in the science.
The Theory of Evolution is challenged all the time by scientists working in that field. Much has been learned since Darwin wrote.
Lay people have no ability to challenge the sciences, since they don't even understand them. You could, for example, challenge the current Theory of Gravitation. However, your challenge would be ridiculous, unless you are a scientist in that field. Incidentally, there are constant challenges to whatever is the current Theory of Gravitation. All come from scientists, just as the challenges to Evolutionary Theory come from scientists.
For a religious leader to challenge the Theory of Evolution without being a scientist himself is laughable. We see this all the time here on Free Republic. The challenges are many, but the knowledge is miniscule.
When someone appears and actually challenges those here with actual facts that can be demonstrated, I'll be absolutely floored. Instead, we get Genesis...hardly a scientific journal.
I don't mean to be rude, but that's one of the sorriest comments I have ever read on Free Republic.
The opinions of non-politicians are pretty useless when you have questions regarding politics.
The opinions of non-artists are pretty useless when you have questions regarding art.
The opinions of men are pretty useless when you have questions regarding women. (Yes, I only recognize 2 sexes.)
The opinions of non-believers are pretty useless when you have questions regarding theology.
By shutting out all but the true believers from the debate you GUARANTEE that you will, eventually, stray into a fundamentalist religion. It's preciesly because science can operate in the full light of day, defending itself against all comers, that it has brought us so far.
If you can't explain your science to the layman, I would propose you are no longer dealing in science.
Shalom.
Who are those people who put fish with feet on their cars that have DARWIN written inside?
Shalom.
"The opinions of men are pretty useless when you have questions regarding women."
I'm sorry, was there some insanely huge discovery lately that cleared up that timeless mystery while I was upstairs playing video games?
Scientific theories are based on observations in nature and/or observations of experiments in the lab. Then conclusions are drawn up from the observations. Then others do peer reviews of the work and of course further observations are done by other scientists to either uphold or demolish the scientific theory.
That's how science operates.
Just guessing but I think the correct definition of theory as it is used in science has been posted to this site 1000's of times by dozens of different posters. And people still use that work incorrectly.
It isn't a question of being able to explain it, some just will not listen.
I sincerely doubt that more than a handful of people really understood what Dembski was saying.
Sauron
"If you can't explain your science to the layman, I would propose you are no longer dealing in science.
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I give you String Theory. So far, I have not found a comprehensible lay explanation of it. Same with subatomic physics.
Still, if you wish information on those two subjects, who would you ask? A lay person?
>>Evolution is proven EVERY SINGLE DAY, for those with half a brain.<<
Subtle! And a GOOD ONE! Most here won't even get it, I suspect.
Viruses!
EVERYDAY for those with...
So I see you are using the tactic that ID is a cover for religion?
I think you are allowing your personal religious beliefs (atheist) to conflict with fact.
Many who are intrigued or support ID are well-respected scientists......unless they have been attacked by those supporting evolution.
Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Live with it.
I know that doesn't really help, but I read it on FR last week and thought it was pretty funny.
Anyway, men and women are no easier or harder to understand than any other complex biological organism. The less likely we will act like robots. Sometimes we will do things that others can predict. Sometimes we won't.
I submit that women don't understand women any better than men do - it's just that the lack of sexual tension makes it less of an issue.
Now, did something happen while I was in a meeting that ended men discussing women?
Shalom.
"Who are those people who put fish with feet on their cars that have DARWIN written inside?"
I couldn't answer that, as I don't know any of them. If they're not scientists, then they're in the same boat as other non-scientists. Are they Darwinists? If they self-identify as such, I suppose they are.
I'm willing to bet that very few of them are working in the field, however.
You mean the Flying spaghetti MONSTER??
So you would say that the entire explaination of your science is understanding what a theory is?
I don't know what your science is, but I don't think it's anything I would be interested in.
What I would be interested in is an elevator statement explaining the mechanism that introduces a change in a complex organism, such as a rabbit or a chipmunk, to a layman.
If it's not doable, it's not science, it's magic.
Shalom.
You know, since you're not a scientist by your own admission, why should we listen to what you have to say on the subject? You really shot yourself in the foot on this one.
So break it down. Don't explain all of subatomic physics. Explain part of it. I understand protons, neutrons, and electrons. I understand quarks to some extent. I understand the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.
Unfortunately, some of the physicists I have talked with seem to think that math proves reality, instead of the other way around. Many of those don't mind that they have a mathematical model but don't know what it means. They then can't explain it to me. But that's not science, it's magic.
Shalom.
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