Skip to comments.JonBenet Ramsey Murder Case SuspectFR Thread Roundup
Posted on 08/20/2006 5:37:25 AM PDT by Rte66
For your bookmarking assistance, this is a reference list of links to the Aug 2006 or newer Free Republic threads on the topic of the JonBenet Ramsey murder case and the possible arrest of John Mark Karr as a suspect in her murder.
He told her details that were known to all the JBR case followers.
She was not a JonBenet Ramsey case follower - she was interested in the Polly Klaas murder. She didn't know these details were already well known.
The year before
Boy does that make me squwimish even if he isn't the perp.
I'm not talking about a party, but a true open house due to the Christmas decorations in it. They call it a Christmas Walk and House tour in some communities. It is open to the public but is normally only published in local community newspaper.
Cnn has it wrong too they just said people had been through the house, but not allowed downstairs.
Patsy did one the year before, after the remodling was all done. They didn't do one in 1996.
The only Christmas anything they did was the little thrown-together children's party on 12/23/96.
That was the year before - Christmas season 1995.
That's the one the did the gingerbread houses and had as many adult as kids........Sould like fun!
Ok.... I'll take you word for it that it was in 1995. Someone over on the forum says she did have one in 1996 and that it was a public thing and that many people took the tour. (they said a 1000, but in my community it could be in the 100's, maybe 200 or more)
No matter what year it was could Karr have taken the tour? (who knows - if he knew about the Ramsey's before JonBenet's death)
I agree with you regarding the evidence against the Ramseys. But I was referring to basic knowledge of the house, the staircase, the bonus check's exact amount, where it was, etc., the stuff that JMK was supposedly privy to. All of that was public knowledge years ago so I don't see what JMK knew, at least from the linked news article, that was restricted from the public domain.
Maybe we'll hear something soon about information specific to the crime scene itself, but for now I'm just hearing that he has knowledge of stuff that has been public, albeit not widely circulated, for years. If he was obsessed with the case and planning to write a book on it, I don't think it would be that hard to research it, interview key people and find out "details of the basement", for example.
Requires an account. Can you just post it or summarize it here?
I'm not going to summarize facts with dates and places. You can go to bugmenot . com and see if you can get a password for that publication.
Here is a timeline of events even before 12/25
They had a party on 12/14
A substitute teacher in a little town in AL would go to Boulder, CO, for a total stranger's open house? I don't think so.
Bookmarking this thread for tomorrow.
Thanks for putting all the info in one place!
I can't see anything on ACR's page except some yellow type at the bottom about 12/25/96.
The party on the 14th wasn't their party. They let one of the Episcopal Church dinner clubs (small) use the house while they were out of town. It might have been when Patsy went to NYC, not sure which trip it was.
That was the day JonBenet was in the parade downtown, I think - the Ramseys were gone and Grandpa Paugh had to take JonBenet. Burke and his scout troop make decorations for her car, I believe - and maybe walked alongside it, IIRC.
That was with their church. Foyer groups are Episcopal meeting groups that meet at member's homes. JMK wouldn't be there b/c he was not a parishioner.
It's akin to herding Viking kitties, actually. You're welcome, lol!
Inside House photographs here (Karr could have seen these on the net)
http://jameson245_archive.tripod.com/index.htm (main page)
http://jameson245_archive.tripod.com/spiralstairs-A.htm (the stairs)
Oh no. Did you have to do that? She was banned from FR.
Of course he did. Anyone in the US who has ever watched the JBR specials on TV has seen those.
I had no idea
why was she banned?
She had a vendetta against a Vassar professor named Foster who had something to do with the anthrax case and Hatfill.
That's all I remember, honestly, but saw her post and saw it happen - zotted within minutes. I was still a lurker back then. It was years ago.
Have you known about AnnieMuss? - (wondering if she is this gal that has that tapes and emails)
you have to read this! (If AnnieMuss is this gal then here are more details and they really seem to fit Karr's personality and possibly why he did it - take it for what it is or is not)
No - I've ignored the case for most of the past 2-3 years. I looked at that.
Yes, it sounds like this Wendy Hutchens/Hutchings person writing about JMK - except for the huge glaring neon story about her meeting him in Boulder, where she lives and where he lived.
She doesn't live in Boulder, never did, neither did he. She admits she is schizophrenic and doesn't know if she was in Boulder or not.
Very useful link. Thank you.
For those trying to link Karr and the Ramseys to Atlanta, it should be noted from the timeline that JBR was in Atlanta twice during 1996 - one was to compete in a child pageant in August, one week after her sixth birthday. She finished in second place. The other occasion was Thanksgiving where Patsy and JBR (no mention of John or Burke) spent the holiday with Patsy's sister and attended the theatre.
Of course, by this time, Karr is supposedly teaching in Northern Alabama so who knows if/when he made any trips to Atlanta and whether he might have seen JBR on either occasion.
Jamison was banned?......lol
everyone does know don't they, that Jamison was a staunch defender of Patsy and even sent her gifts, IIRC but I also remember Jamison selling some private letters or pics or something of Patsy's to the media for a nice sum...if anybody remembers this, please confirm it for me...thx
the person is being a smart@ss at the end about the paranoid schizophrenia - but the person (writer) claims that they are male at one point when asked.
The whole thing may be total BS and it probably sounded like total BS back them but now when you read it after the fact of Karr being involved, some of it (a lot of it) really fits Karr, except that they say he lived in Boulder at the time and few other things.
Tonight was the first time I have ever seen it.
The person's name is Jameson
Are sure this person used the name Jamison on FR?
8/21/06 - JonBenet/Karr discussion transcripts - CNN
Paula Zahn with Wendy Murphy, more
LKL with Lin Wood, Charlie Brennan, Michael Tracey, more
[^This was where Michael Tracey said we (America) need to be recolonized. He's been here what, nearly 20 years?]
Anderson Cooper 360
Thanks, Rte! I hate Wendy Murphy but somebody told me she was truly nasty on Zahn's show tonight,..... just read the transcript... that person was right.
I am glad that I am not the only one!
I like to smack the sh!t out of her.
Her and that Susan Estrogen
Yeah -- she has the voice of fingernails scratching a chalk board.
You're right. She should have. I heard one former DA say, though, that the investigation of Karr had been leaked to the press and that the DA was forced to act before she was ready. He accused the professor, Tracey, of doing it. In time, we'll know.
I believe she was forced to act before she was ready, but she should have something we don't know about.
When did John Karr talk to Wendy Hutchins?
Wasn't this the lady that Lin Wood threatened to sue last night if he she kept running her mouth about the Ramseys?
She sold some of the depositions she had received to the National Enquirer. She has also written a play about the JonBenet murder. While I sometimes get the feeling she is a bit out there, her forum does have some good information concerning the history of this case.
Wendy Hutchens is the one who turned Karr in for suspected child porn, which resulted in the charges for which he went to jail in 2001.
She lived in Petaluma then and was a case follower of the Polly Klaas case. Karr hooked up with her that way and practiced his obsessing about Polly until he started obsessing on JonBenet.
It got spooky, so Wendy went to LE and they gave her phone recording equipment. She taped over 20 hours of convos with him. Others have been able to hear some of the audio online, but I finally got to hear some of it this morning on GMA. Creeeeeppppy.
He didn't admit or confess to killing JBR, but kept giving Wendy scenarios - in graphic detail - *as if* he were the killer. She wasn't totally familiar with all the ins and out of the Ramsey case and so she thought the things he knew were things that only the perp would know.
I guess the Sonoma Co. authorities didn't quite agree, because the Boulder PD called them about JBR and they couldn't find any connection - but they did find the porn and arrested him for that. She said she called the FBI first, but they haven't been mentioned again in the stories about her, so I guess they bowed out.
And no, the Wendy that got Lin Wood to running his mouth was Wendy Murphy, a former prosecutor who is a type of victim advocate for women and children. She was on the panel on Paula Zahn's show on CNN last night (see the transcript link I put up earlier).
She disputed some things others were putting on Karr, saying John Ramsey could've done them. Her facts were accurate, but delivery was not well-received. You know how we feel about Ann Coulter's bold statements sometimes? Same type of thing. No further comment from me.
She used jameson
Coverage is starting to thin a little. Extradition hearing is this morning 8:30AM PDT (10:30 CDT, 11:30 EDT) in Los Angeles. There should be some comments about that forthcoming.
You're a treasure! Awesome job compiling the articles and very much appreciated.
We might learn a little something in about 2 hours from now.
Karr is now in court per Foxnews!
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