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To: Dimensio; Tax-chick; sittnick; ninenot; bornacatholic; Convert from ECUSA; Salvation; NYer; ...
The usual gang of stubborn damn fools, liberals and "progressives" and other atheists or non-lineal thinkers endlessly repeating their mantras of praise of an idjit like Darwin and his crackpot theories, backed by the utterly corrupt (and taxpayer funded thanks to the usual gang, etc.), gummint edjumakashun establishment, and by "scientific" community convinced that that its members are gods and that God is not (they hope, they hope, they hope), those self-imagined simians who prefer to worship themselves and to ignore the word of God, thereby freeing themselves to do what they damn well please to do regardless of consequences to others and to practice a faux pragmatism released from the bounds imposed by their Creator (whether they acknowledge Him or not).

You can post continued inquiries for the refutation of the Darwinian frankly ridiculous until the cows come home but the most you will get from me is the somewhat disingenuous suggestion that I can accept (for you and others of similar delusion) that you imagine yourselves descended from monkeys, apes, gorillas, chimpanzees, primordial soup suddenly energized by lightning, alien space invaders of limited imagination (most likely as to Darwinists) or from granite rock piles or prehistoric salamanders and to concede that you and your ilk may be right (but only for you and your ilk). If you find this separation of you from us as to origins to be somehow irrational, remember that I do not actually believe that you and your soulmates are actually descended from baboons or whatever regardless of objective evidence, but if I did believe that, it would be at least competitive with Darwinian delusions in terms of believability.

These delusions of yours, when quarantined or properly ridiculed or even examined, are as harmless as the dopey nephew in the movie Arsenic and Old Lace who keeps on charging up the stairs and blowing his trumpet as though he were Teddy Roosevelt at San Juan Hill. Its a little hard on the ears of the innocent Brooklyn neighbors and the elderly aunts but not as sinister or harmful as the elderly aunts' little hobby of poisoning the elderberry wine served to the strangers who are their elderly men victims who wind up buried in nephew Teddy's Panama Canal Zone dig in the basement.

Of course, Arsenic and Old Lace is an hysterically funny film whereas the "I am an ape man, I am an ape ape man" obsessives are simply tragic.

If science is still regarded as the "search for truth,", the best science books are the Bible and the Baltimore Catechism and Pascendi Domenici Gregis and Lamentabile Sane none of which suggest that man was created by or descended from Bonzo or the organ grinder's little pal or Mighty Joe Young or King Kong or Clint Eastwood's cinematic orangutan pal or from Darwin for that matter. Nor from the moonbat anti-God Kansas federal judge referenced in the statement of Darwinist "faith" represented by your link, which, unlike Darwin's does not remain missing. Another bully funded by our tax money making American gummint skewels safe for godlessness.

The late 19th century was a special time of left self-worship and enthusiastic delusion: Marxism, spiritualism, seances, phrenology, eugenics, and, of course, people actually so naive as to be impressed with Darwin's delusions in their eagerness to reject God. Nonetheless, there were others.

An old man, carelessly and frumpily dressed and praying his rosary (you can just imagine the type) was seated on a train in the vicinity of oh sooooo sophisticated Paris when he was joined in his cabin by a young stranger who immediately set about an impossibly modernistic rant against that rosary and against any belief in God whatsoever. After all, this late 19th century was THE AGE OF SCIENCE when bold, noble Promethean scientists would give mankind the faux intellectual fire which would free man from silly superstitions like a dependence upon or a need to obey that pie in the sky, bye and bye God, (worshiped only by those with unlaundered grey matter), to say nothing of the traditional personal humiliation of acknowledging that God knows better than the clever "science"/philosophers of one's late night college dorm BS session pals much less oneself. The young man was merciless and pitiless in his championing of science over the "discredited" old superstitions and humiliating "old ways" but the old man stayed the course and continued to pray his rosary. We don't know who that young champion of science unshackled was but eventually the elderly man, when he finished his rosary, introduced himself as Louis Pasteur. Rumor has it that this Pasteur fellow had something to do with actual science.

It is also truly remarkable that the metroandohsoooosophisticati (MAOSS) find it so horribly humiliating to genuflect before God and His Truth but not to imagine themselves "evolved" from mere beasts or whatever.

I have a very large jukebox (a regular anti-Darwin Wurlitzer) and if you keep on looking for refutations of the Darwinian ridiculous, I will interpret that as: "Please, mister, please, please play B-17" and all the others one by one.

Oh, and asserting that Darwinism is true does not make it so. Darwinism is NOT the standard and the Judaeo-Christian tradition and the Roman Catholic Church owe Darwinists absolutely nothing but ridicule. I'll take Pasteur and Pope St. Pius X and Ann Coulter (a determined Christian who I understand to be one who attends Catholic and reformed churches but certainly has Darwin's number. You get Darwin and his tax-funded religion of pseudo-science which needs defense at all costs lest anyone have the opportunity in taxpayer funded brain laundries to consider the obvious alternative that God created the universe, you, me and everything else in it and did so without the assistance of Darwin or or of apes (except in the creation of other apes).

I tend to specialize in the Catholic point of view. I have pinged some Catholics and invite them to abuse Darwinian deviancy as they wish. For balance and for what are another entire chapter of valid anti-Darwinianism, I have pinged a number of Sola Scriptura Christians to contribute here.

247 posted on 09/22/2006 8:55:11 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
The usual gang of stubborn damn fools, liberals and "progressives" and other atheists or non-lineal thinkers

You have yet to demonstrate that all who accept the theory of evolution are members of the above categories.

endlessly repeating their mantras of praise of an idjit like Darwin and his crackpot theories,

You have yet to demonstrate that Charles Darwin was an "idjit", not have you demonstrated that his theories are "crackpot". Insulting people will not demonstrate that your assertions are correct.

acked by the utterly corrupt (and taxpayer funded thanks to the usual gang, etc.), gummint edjumakashun establishment,

Please provide evidence to support this claim.

and by "scientific" community convinced that that its members are gods and that God is not (they hope, they hope, they hope),

Please provide evidence to support your claim that members of the scientific community believe themselves to be "gods". Your claim that they "believe that God is not" is demonstratably false, as there exist theist scientists who accept the theory of evolution.

those self-imagined simians who prefer to worship themselves and to ignore the word of God, thereby freeing themselves to do what they damn well please to do regardless of consequences to others and to practice a faux pragmatism released from the bounds imposed by their Creator (whether they acknowledge Him or not).

Your insults and false claims about scientists does not falsify the theory of evolution.

ou can post continued inquiries for the refutation of the Darwinian frankly ridiculous until the cows come home but the most you will get from me is the somewhat disingenuous suggestion that I can accept (for you and others of similar delusion) that you imagine yourselves descended from monkeys, apes, gorillas, chimpanzees, primordial soup suddenly energized by lightning, alien space invaders of limited imagination (most likely as to Darwinists) or from granite rock piles or prehistoric salamanders and to concede that you and your ilk may be right (but only for you and your ilk).

So you admit, then, that you are willfully falsely misrepresenting what I believe and also that you will utterly refuse to provide evidence for your unsubstantiated claimse. If you refuse to provide any reason to show that your assertions are credible and willfully misrepresent the positions of others, why then should anyone believe what you say?

If you find this separation of you from us as to origins to be somehow irrational, remember that I do not actually believe that you and your soulmates are actually descended from baboons or whatever regardless of objective evidence, but if I did believe that, it would be at least competitive with Darwinian delusions in terms of believability.

This does not justify your beligerant refusal to support your claims with evidence, nor does it excuse your insults and misrepresentations.

These delusions of yours, when quarantined or properly ridiculed or even examined, are as harmless as the dopey nephew in the movie Arsenic and Old Lace who keeps on charging up the stairs and blowing his trumpet as though he were Teddy Roosevelt at San Juan Hill.

Please provide evidence that I am delusional. If you cannot, I can only conclude that you are making unwarranted personal attacks against my person.

Oh, and asserting that Darwinism is true does not make it so.

I have never claimed othewise. You are attacking a strawman.

You get Darwin and his tax-funded religion of pseudo-science which needs defense at all costs lest anyone have the opportunity in taxpayer funded brain laundries to consider the obvious alternative that God created the universe, you, me and everything else in it and did so without the assistance of Darwin or or of apes (except in the creation of other apes).

The theory of evolution is not a religion, and it is not honest to claim that it is.

Your long-worded post provides makes a number of personal attacks, but thus far you have provided absolutely no evidence to support your claims. It fact, you have even admitted that you will not provide evidence to support your claims. Based upon the energy that you have expended specifically to refuse to support your unsubstantiated assertions, it seems highly likely that your purpose is to willfully spread falsehoods, such as your continued efforts to falsely equate acceptance of the theory of evolution as valid science with atheism. Your behaviour is clearly irrational and it is not honest. If you are an example of your faith, then I must confess that I have far too much integrity and ethical concerns to allow myself to become as dishonest as your faith apparently requires of its adherents.
254 posted on 09/22/2006 9:18:55 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: BlackElk; Dimensio
I don't put much store in what the "scientific" community has to say. Many have their own agenda. Are kids overweight? Our scientific community says it's due to soda pop. Is global warming happening? Data dating back 50 years (out of a 6 billion year history) confirms this to be so and the scientific community attribute the cause to pollutants. Is the fetus alive? Well, yes and no. It all depends on what the mother says. How scientific is that?

The "scientific community" can't agree on some of the simple things and they want to tell me how the earth was created? Please. It was the scientific community more than the Church that tried to prove Galileo's theory the earth revolved around the sun was wrong. I wouldn't put my faith in the scientific community.
257 posted on 09/22/2006 9:40:05 AM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luke 24:45)
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To: BlackElk
Thanks for the ping BlackElk

You can count on at least one of the delusionals to relentlessly insist you have not substantiated any claims reject all proof you bring thereof, twist your words with each reply of his, never directly address anything you have said, and himself be so squirrelly and slippery that it is hard to determine just what if anything he has ever said or believes in except that he will somehow get to his declaration that nothing you say is worth anything and end with rejection of you as a person in as many words. That is the demented message said yet once again for most likely the thousandth time, it is so predictable.

You are accused of being belligerent dishonest and irrational by one who wears those descriptions like its painted on to him..

These is a hatred that seeps out BlackElk, and it is plain to see by all of a rational and objective mind. It comes from the rabid idolater's from the cult of darwinism, IOW the godless religion of liberals.

Well you do have a lot of powerful words there BlackElk and the Darwinists will do everything they can to make it go away.

When 'Wolf is gone for calling it as it is, hopefully BlackElk will be around to bring some balance.

Take Care,

W.
274 posted on 09/22/2006 10:35:32 AM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: BlackElk; Dimensio; Ichneumon
Dimensio hits you with specifics in 220. You "rebut" with paragraphs of unsubstantiated risible spew in 247.

For more discussion of where Ann Coulter's antievolution screed misses the mark, note this post. What will you spew in answer to that?

276 posted on 09/22/2006 10:39:49 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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