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To: Last Visible Dog
The hawk knows nothing about Natural Selection - it eats what it can. The only pattern observed is Hawks eat - I hope you don't think the fact that Hawks eat proves natural selection is not random.

You would seem to be confused between the hawk's behavior exhibiting a pattern and the hawk knowing something about natural selection. The hawk can preferentially kill animals which are the most easy to detect without knowing or caring that his behavior matches part of a certain scientific theory widely discussed among humans.

Hoping this straightens things out for you but not feeling too optimistic, etc. etc.

572 posted on 09/26/2006 5:40:31 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: VadeRetro
You would seem to be confused between the hawk's behavior exhibiting a pattern and the hawk knowing something about natural selection. The hawk can preferentially kill animals which are the most easy to detect without knowing or caring that his behavior matches part of a certain scientific theory widely discussed among humans.

Exactly - no pattern - just random. Natural Selection is not driving the hawk therefore Natural Selection is an observation of many points of data, not a force or structure. Natural Selection only exists in our minds.

This is the core philosophy of Evolution - the something from nothing model - a philosophy that believes extreme complexity, pattern, and design can spring forth from the complete absense of complexity, pattern, or design.

IF you think Natural Selection follows a pattern - state the pattern - although I am not too optimistic you will actually try.

579 posted on 09/26/2006 8:58:04 PM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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